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« on: February 06, 2019, 03:13:20 am »

How come there are never any GM backed PvE events?

I mean let's face it. PvP isn't really this server's thing. You have about 20 people who play it all at different times so its pretty dead so I understand why there are events brought about to increase PvP. But I think the real reason nobody PvP's on this server is because vanilla PvP wasn't made for people in full t3 bursting everyone down instantly. Its comparable to URF in league where there is no balance and you either one shot or are one shotted. And it doesn't seem like people are up to making new characters with obscure rulesets on how you can gear it.

So how else do we bring out competition in everyone?

Why not make PvE focused events?
Make 5 man dungeon races, have teams sign up and have prizes for the team that wins.
Leveling challenges, Guild AQ40 races  pug BWL races. You could do something other than races but it would be a start and it would possibly bring more activity to the server.

I'm certain you'd get a big turnout for some of these if you put nice reward for the winning team like teebu's or a recipe thats annoying to get or even just reputation or some gold.

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2019, 03:15:55 am »

Also continuing on the 5man dungeon racing, you could make it a monthly thing and have it be a different dungeon each month. Then you'll get people who practice the dungeon and helping new people get gear? Idk just a thought.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2019, 03:34:29 am »

Nobody pvp's in this server?

Edit: Vanilla PvP vs VG PvP haha,dont forget the bugs,and you are wrong mate,who dont play bgs are u.

Edit^2: i think ppl play pvp because they are competitive and they want rank rewards,aleast that is the reason because i play bgs.

If u dont play pvp,that dont mean ppl around dont gonna play it Tongue

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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2019, 04:13:31 am »

@Shin, I'm saying a large majority of this server is centered around PvE while you have a very small amount of people who pvp so I understand why there are events normally for PvP. However most people get tired of the PvP fast cause of the imbalance of gear (and yes VG bugs that is another good point).

So why not make a tradition of PvE events to cater to the actual community it has rather than a sparse PvP event where 40 t3 horde roflstomp 20 t3 alliance and 20 blue geared alliance then alliance gets disinterested super fast. (Why do they always start AV events at the end of chaos raidtime? lol)

Edit: Also I'm not saying kill pvp, I just want some PvE events for once. Obviously pvp'rs keep doing your thing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2019, 07:17:15 am »

The 5man dungeon is probably a somewhat poor idea, only bis people would be able to compete for the prices (DUH) and its probably will be more of a comp issue than a Route. BRD and Scholo is the only 2 dungeons i could think any of it would matter, Brd because of the size and scholo for the immunities and diffrent monstrs. (all others would be ez dominated by Fury warriors + heal (pref shaman due to WF and Chainheal) also a hues u think anyone trying to prep for a race would invite a random blue.
40man - LOL (gl getting more than one guild intrested in this on a certain date)
20man - yeah maybe ? rewards(recipies 1/20 dunno if people will be intrested in that, other than that you would need to have people stream etc)
Other than this issue, how to judge it? time from pull or time from entering, you will need people to strim their runs(another roadblock).  you say pve PUG event, how would you split the reward if it was a Teebu?

A pve event could be to gather 5 items over a week, and first "team" to show their items to gm/etc would win.
i am unsure if even this would gather any substantial "following" (this has been tried before, though with superrare items, crazy rewards and that took years to complete)

The reason why pvp events are so easy and often made is because its easy to hash out and its easy to spot who wins said events. Max hks in a wsg/ab/av - ezpz - 1 winner - 1 reward
Pvp in gurubashi 1v1 2v2 - 1 winner and a 2team winner. simple easy nothing to think about tbh.

there is a reason why most servers dont have anything else than pvp events, they are usually impossible or very hard to lay out and make sure. I am unsure if i have seen a pve event on any other realm.

You can always attempt to craft one yourself, i am doubtful about the possibility of one. Last time i saw anyone care about clear speed etc was when DW(Distilled Wisdom) was raiding. as they would use worldbuffs etc for the bwl runs. as they would clear bwl mc and aq40 in one day. (prime hunting day for me on my rogue)

Ps. i dont think the ruleset was obscure, but that might have been because it was my event.
do dungeons get gear. i removed items that wasnt fair (crafting and raiding) This was what i thought was clear.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2019, 04:16:19 pm »

Yet another thread with someone trying to be innovative and everyone else shitting on it without helping it succeed.

I think it's a good base idea and I am sure you are open to suggestions on how to improve the idea.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2019, 05:00:47 pm »

Yet another thread with someone trying to be innovative and everyone else shitting on it without helping it succeed.

I think it's a good base idea and I am sure you are open to suggestions on how to improve the idea.
"everyone shitting it and not giving ideas - goes ahead provides zero ideas himself".

unsure if i wanna bother defending myself against you.
what i voiced was a concern of the complexity of a pve event vs a pvp event.
Ill leave it at that.

ill take the bait. The events i could imagine seeing to work would be find 5 semirare/somewhat uncommon items from dungeons - first team wins. (like 5 plate items and the one collecting gotta be a cloth to avoid someone just going to bank and "find" them a hour later, that or screenshots of looting it could work. and having over a weeks span or something and most / all wins the prize when times run out.)

Solo running low lvl dungeons(timed) (low level dungeons like DM or something, i was critical of this before and thought it would be a stomp by certain classes, ive reconsidered it since when i talked with Brawnzy)

Solo high level dungeons (timed) like zf+ (maybe sm cath, maraudon, Sunken temple Dm N(prolly only hunter who can reliable do DM N though i think its a good challange on VG)

I am unsure if a 5man dungeon (5 "premade") will be successful due to the sheer fact you will need minimum 10 people to have a race, and preferably 25? (5 teams competing) to make it intresting. And i am unsure if that will be a possibility. i funny idea would be to randomize teams. so you would get 5 tanks 5 heals and 15 dps(for example) and randomize the 5 parties and you gotta mix and adapt to your own comp and the fastest to clear said dungeon wins.  This demands either heavy gm assistance OR people being able to stream / record their runs. OR the leader of the event standing outside the dungeon and when boss is dead they would whisper said leader and after the whisp printscreen the kill +  the whisper to said leader incase any doubt comes about killing the endboss during said time.

Guess i went on defending myself on forums because ive said all this to brawnzy already.
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2019, 07:56:07 pm »

I've also thought of a couple ways to validate that they actually completed the dungeon. 1 way would be to have a GM actually in there watching (lets say its just a 2 team competition this would be fairly easy)

However if there are too many teams for GM's we could do something like have the groups have to fully exit (all 5 players) and count that as part of the timing. Then after all exit you check to make sure all the bosses required are killed.

Obviously if the team cheated by not killing all the bosses you would just check the next team that got out until you reach the first team that actually completed the objective.
These would be fairly easy to check especially if you had a GM to fly through the dungeon and check all the boss corpses.

Also would be fun to do a Deadmines run where you have people waiting at exit to check who the first one out is.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2019, 08:06:11 pm »

Did you all forget about the mighty Prophet Vish'Naraf and the little diablo guy?


Let the chaos dismember everything!
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2019, 08:27:16 pm »

I guess I wasn't around for that. We should do more stuff like that Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2019, 02:03:24 pm »

Also would be fun to do a Deadmines run where you have people waiting at exit to check who the first one out is.
I did a hide and seek where I stood there (you weren't allowed to wall jump up to the portal).
The event was fun but Sarek's comments were even better.
https://vanillagaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=15889.msg125868#msg125868
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2019, 08:57:56 pm »

That is a fun idea as well. I don't quite have the spare gold to do something like that but I could do like ingot rewards from my MC days Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2019, 10:35:40 pm »

We need a PvE Event where we PvP the PvE'rs. Tongue

Lets make it Happen. PvP flagged 24/7!  Grin Grin
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 06:55:41 pm »

2014 -- what a year, eh, Wopwop? Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2019, 02:12:46 pm »

Pve event will be lovely +1
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