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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2018, 03:34:48 am »

The new core will not change anything. Not like people will magically say "Hey, they have a new core, let's all stop playing on the current servers and move to VG." That's never gonna happen. New core or no new core it will be the exact same people that played here for years.

The server is currently totally playable, there's nothing game breaking. Some things here and there, but they barely make a difference.

I disagree, combat bugs alone can kill a lot of new players desire to play here. If it weren't for the 15x exp I would of stopped playing here long ago. Since we've been playing here for a while we understand the bugs and know how to deal with them to the point where its normal for us. New players testing out the server who run into this problem will be dissuaded to play here.

The first time leveling up on this server is also hard due to the lack of gold to train your abilities and gear to fight things at your level. So add that frustration + a combat bug so you can't eat food and heal without logging out and you've got yourself a frustrated player who would rather level on some other 2x server than deal with this one. This is just one example, there are a lot more that could be made.

So I believe slowly overtime the server will net more people but its not gonna instantly bring in tons of players.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2018, 04:31:08 am »

...there's nothing game breaking...
oh my naive friend. there are quite alot that is game breaking on vg atm. its just that you don't know about them yet. A good example that has been "fixed" is Chest of spoils.
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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2018, 09:03:00 am »

I just do not understand why VG wants to figure out everything themselves, get that new core from other parties. The concept of VG is appealing to quite some players: up for many years, complete your char, fast lvling, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2018, 10:34:23 am »

get that new core from other parties.

It's not as simple as that because codebases and technologies are different.
You can't just slap our database onto a new core.

Furthermore there are known/unknown bugs in other cores aswell which have been fixed by VG already. Getting those right on the new core is a quest itself.

There's basically 2 paths to go:
1) Stick with current VG, adapt new core slowly on PTRs.
2) Swap entirely, try to migrate the database, patch the new core live.

Option 2 is definitely risky considering lost stuff noone notices at first, performance problems, attack vectors etc.
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2018, 01:37:32 pm »

The arrival of the new core will kill this server
Dead things cant be killed
BUUUUUUUUUUUURN!
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2018, 02:06:56 pm »

"What is dead may never die!"  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2018, 05:09:16 pm »

Its a fun server nothing more, nothing less. So all you guys just "Withness" this Fun Server at its best.
get that new core from other parties.

It's not as simple as that because codebases and technologies are different.
You can't just slap our database onto a new core.

Furthermore there are known/unknown bugs in other cores aswell which have been fixed by VG already. Getting those right on the new core is a quest itself.

There's basically 2 paths to go:
1) Stick with current VG, adapt new core slowly on PTRs.
2) Swap entirely, try to migrate the database, patch the new core live.

Option 2 is definitely risky considering lost stuff noone notices at first, performance problems, attack vectors etc.

To my knowledge, everything was settle till AQ40. In AQ40 visc, ouro and cthun bosses werent working properly on that new core. So again to my knowledge, it was decided to swap these bosses from our current VG core. And again to my knowledge, it was decided to swap naxx from our current core to new core.
And again to my knowledge, there is already one back up made of our database+chars. Which is stored in high tight security so the loss of data factor is also out of the book.
And again to my knowledge, nothing will ever happen and there is no new core ever gonna happen. Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2018, 05:49:36 pm »

New core is just waiting on Zeard to get some spare time to fix  the bugs testers found.

Only Zeard knows when that time will come.

But from experience, when he sits down to do stuff, things gets fixed fast.

It will happen.
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2018, 05:55:34 pm »

It'd be pretty funny if classic launched before vg has that new core
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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2018, 07:14:59 pm »

Perhaps Zeards plan is to wait for the official classic server to launch so we can use that as a model. Would be pretty interesting to try to reverse engineer stuff from another server and replicate it, instead of using 10 year old videos and similar sources.
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« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2018, 08:13:17 pm »

Perhaps zeard doesnt give a shit about this passive income anymore
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2018, 01:22:58 pm »

Whos that "Zeard" ? xaxaxaxaxa
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2018, 05:33:02 pm »

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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2018, 06:58:55 pm »

When next core come pls free ohkillem from the ban box
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2018, 12:26:15 am »

They send new core from China with a pigeon, but he got injured during storm, and now he is in the local hospital in Jinjang, waiting to recover.
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