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« on: January 25, 2018, 07:14:29 am »

"We cannot disallow use of this chest as one item added to (not existing now) "forbidden list" would require to prohibit all other items, such as Rocket Boots, which are also bugged and widely used (e.g. battlegrounds).
In conclusion, one forbidden item is going to result in all other being disallowed. Since such action would cause too big harm for the players, we are not going to prohibit use of these items, while waiting for the fix done by developers in the future."
Quote from Wingedhussar. (can't copy quote cuz original post is closed https://vanillagaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=22123.msg169030)


No offense to the GMs but part of the problem here is that the current GMs do not PvP so they do not understand the effect some bugs have over others during battlegrounds. That being said, I want to bring attention to how wrong this decision is to allow items like the Green Whelp Armor in PvP. Its like you want people to purposely find the most bugged item possible and use it to their advantage.

Unlike Rocket Boots, which can be used by any race or class, the Green Whelp Armor is leather, immediately giving a disadvantage to clothies who cant used this bugged item. Furthermore this chest is only supposed to work on mobs LOWER THAN 50 making the Green Whelp Armor all the more wrong because it isn't supposed to work at all on mobs 50+ PERIOD.



Food for thought: Allow the PvP Community to give feedback for a new set of rules and a banned item list.

    In this scenario there would be limited blowback on the GMs because they would only be enforcing rules that were agreed upon.  Also, players will always have a clear understanding of what is and isn't allowed as there would be a reference guide. Obviously, it make take a little while to perfect the new rules as not everything can be initially thought from the beginning.


Examples of abuse:

-Blinking up graveyard
-Hunter stealth pet
-MCing people so they get speed hack dc
-Invis pots to cap AB flags
-MC helm and vanishing









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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 08:36:22 am »

Also bring PvP weekends already pls k thx bye
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 04:32:00 am »

PvP? wth is that? I know of no such thing.
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 04:56:16 am »

"We cannot disallow use of this chest as one item added to (not existing now) "forbidden list" would require to prohibit all other items, such as Rocket Boots, which are also bugged and widely used (e.g. battlegrounds).
In conclusion, one forbidden item is going to result in all other being disallowed. Since such action would cause too big harm for the players, we are not going to prohibit use of these items, while waiting for the fix done by developers in the future."
Quote from Wingedhussar. (can't copy quote cuz original post is closed https://vanillagaming.org/forum/index.php?topic=22123.msg169030)


No offense to the GMs but part of the problem here is that the current GMs do not PvP so they do not understand the effect some bugs have over others during battlegrounds. That being said, I want to bring attention to how wrong this decision is to allow items like the Green Whelp Armor in PvP. Its like you want people to purposely find the most bugged item possible and use it to their advantage.

Unlike Rocket Boots, which can be used by any race or class, the Green Whelp Armor is leather, immediately giving a disadvantage to clothies who cant used this bugged item. Furthermore this chest is only supposed to work on mobs LOWER THAN 50 making the Green Whelp Armor all the more wrong because it isn't supposed to work at all on mobs 50+ PERIOD.



Food for thought: Allow the PvP Community to give feedback for a new set of rules and a banned item list.

    In this scenario there would be limited blowback on the GMs because they would only be enforcing rules that were agreed upon.  Also, players will always have a clear understanding of what is and isn't allowed as there would be a reference guide. Obviously, it make take a little while to perfect the new rules as not everything can be initially thought from the beginning.


Examples of abuse:

-Blinking up graveyard
-Hunter stealth pet
-MCing people so they get speed hack dc
-Invis pots to cap AB flags
-MC helm and vanishing










how is mc helm + vanish abuse? There shouldn't be anything preventing you from vanishing to my knowledge. It's also not a channel MC like the spell, more so like hunters pet.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 05:14:18 am »


how is mc helm + vanish abuse? There shouldn't be anything preventing you from vanishing to my knowledge. It's also not a channel MC like the spell, more so like hunters pet.


i thought it was if you use MC helm and then vanish? i am no pro tho
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 02:00:26 pm »


Examples of abuse:

-MCing people so they get speed hack dc


I mc people all day ... guess i must do something wrong.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 02:05:12 pm »



 i am no pro tho
U are sheep dick
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 02:50:11 pm »


Examples of abuse:

-MCing people so they get speed hack dc


I mc people all day ... guess i must do something wrong.

theres a way you can MC someone and have them DC everytime... not talking about regular MC here
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 04:22:23 pm »


Examples of abuse:

-MCing people so they get speed hack dc


I mc people all day ... guess i must do something wrong.

theres a way you can MC someone and have them DC everytime... not talking about regular MC here

Yes, you walk them up and down a wall and the anticheat will kick them off.
Maybe add rogue macro for combat stealth to the list, that shit is getting really annoying.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 05:59:13 pm »


Examples of abuse:

-MCing people so they get speed hack dc


I mc people all day ... guess i must do something wrong.

theres a way you can MC someone and have them DC everytime... not talking about regular MC here

Yes, you walk them up and down a wall and the anticheat will kick them off.
Maybe add rogue macro for combat stealth to the list, that shit is getting really annoying.
do you mean for repick? Cause mages Pala and hunters all have something sort of similar which also has a chance to abuse the most annoying wsg bug where you drop it, but the opposite side can pick it up after dropping their current flag and repick of before the opposite side.. FYI they used the green whelp chest as my "first warning" so I could be perma banned by chest of spoils. So I think that one is depending on if they're salty enough, kinda like marm situation ATM.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 07:12:25 pm »

^rules depend on if the gm dislikes the person allegedly abusing or dislike the person reporting what a meme
Also, what combat stealth macro pm me ))
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 08:30:04 pm »

no such thing as combat stealth, can ofc vanish and stealth endlessly til combat but
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 09:59:01 pm »

1 click 2 vanish while wearing eye of rend bannable?
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 10:00:29 pm »


Examples of abuse:

-MCing people so they get speed hack dc


I mc people all day ... guess i must do something wrong.

theres a way you can MC someone and have them DC everytime... not talking about regular MC here
this happens to me all the time when i MC people, i dont know how i do it, but i always get the "teleport hack detected" message, and then people vanish, i always assumed they just alt-f4ed because they didnt want to deal with pvping.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 10:33:43 pm »

1 click 2 vanish while wearing eye of rend bannable?

2 dalrends each hand dont forget

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but I did vanish 43 times in 3min before
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