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« Reply #1320 on: January 24, 2018, 11:34:58 am »

Everest runs it without taking advantage of the bug, Dunno about the others
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« Reply #1321 on: January 24, 2018, 01:06:46 pm »

Idk how double spawning a preraid boss is bannable but passing the main 4HM cockblock that also happens to drop endgame bis gear by completely intentionally ignoring the boss's main mechanic is legit.

But idk maybe its just me
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« Reply #1322 on: January 24, 2018, 01:16:52 pm »

nailed it, good job.
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« Reply #1323 on: January 24, 2018, 02:15:50 pm »

double spawning a preraid boss

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« Reply #1324 on: January 24, 2018, 02:17:46 pm »

This is just priceless.
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« Reply #1325 on: January 24, 2018, 02:20:37 pm »

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« Reply #1326 on: January 24, 2018, 03:06:50 pm »

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?
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« Reply #1327 on: January 24, 2018, 03:56:03 pm »

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.
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« Reply #1328 on: January 24, 2018, 04:14:10 pm »

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?
Isn't it what we're talking about ?
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« Reply #1329 on: January 24, 2018, 04:21:26 pm »

Wasn't a GM in the raid when Everest first did it?
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« Reply #1330 on: January 24, 2018, 05:01:15 pm »

Wasn't a GM in the raid when Everest first did it?
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« Reply #1331 on: January 24, 2018, 07:40:13 pm »

Hopefully next week we can get a clean kill and not have to cheese it, but progression is progression.

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When you are not certain if something in particular is bugged or not, allowed or forbidden, always make a ticket or forum post about it before proceeding

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Players are never to use or abuse server sided issues/glitches. Exception applies to bugs that cannot be avoided in normal behaviour unless specifically forbidden.

Who is caught using server sided issues can count on penalties varying from warning to (temp.) suspension, depending on the gravity of the abuse.

Oh please, step down from your high horse. Who even are you to talk shit, never heard of you before. This has been bugged for quite awhile and nothing has been done about it. And why bother reporting something now when devs will just say "wait for new core lul." Are we supposed to just all suicide in order to PREVENT the bug from happening? Raids have to go out of their way to actively work AGAINST poor VG scripting? Really? You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.

Furthermore, over the years of playing on VG, I have seen Prophecy and Perseverance both do this to kill Gothik. A former GM by the name of Hector was in our raids and was also the guild leader of Perseverance at a point. BiS did it at one point when Spox was leading and was a GM. I'm pretty sure Everest had to do this for their first Gothik kill as well a few weeks back and supposedly a GM was in their raid too. Do those guilds just get a free pass to abuse as much as they want because a GM is in their guild?

And I would bet money that CE has done it as well, but there's a GM in CE so they probably never got a warning lol. I can't speak on horde guilds because I have barely raided on horde side at all. But you're telling me that over the years not a single horde guild has done this? Lol. That is really laughable.

I have raided with 3 different GMs. To my knowledge, this wasn't considered a "bannable abuse." At least not back then. Staff should really figure their shit out.
Inb4 - "all those GMs are banned tho reeee"
Yeah well they didnt get banned for this afaik. If they did, maybe the devs/head GM should actually clarify it.
Let's just start banning entire guilds because VG scripting doesnt work. Start the unjustified purges and we'll see what really happens to the already low population.

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.

Here's a thought. Instead of dishing out warnings on the forums, how about you actively try to fix the bug that has been fairly well known for awhile now? And this is AFTER other guilds have done it quite a few times with no repercussions. Classic VG staff. Instead of fixing their broken scripts, they choose to ban people instead. Even when you dont have to really do anything to trigger the bug. This is just absurd.
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« Reply #1332 on: January 24, 2018, 08:24:01 pm »

Oh please, step down from your high horse. Who even are you to talk shit, never heard of you before.

Hi, currently Officer and Rogue CC of Chaos, playing here since 2011. Welcome to VG ;-)
Chaos as a guild and especially Ayaag as its raid leader pursued to kill every encounter without abusing any flaw in VG's scripting. I think we're doing a very good job so far.

You're basically admitting to abuse a buged encounter on VG and I'm reminding you of the server rules by quoting the GM who posted them here. That's talking shit to you? What else perceptual disturbances do you suffer from?

This has been bugged for quite awhile and nothing has been done about it.
Broken window fallacy. Just because something is wrong for a while you don't start to abuse it actively, do you?



And why bother reporting something now when devs will just say "wait for new core lul."
Many players know for a long period that some guilds abuse/abused the Gothik bug. Still noone reported anyone and neither did I nor am I going to do so. If you continue to piss me off with you're asshole attitude on this topic I might change my mind though :-)



Are we supposed to just all suicide in order to PREVENT the bug from happening? Raids have to go out of their way to actively work AGAINST poor VG scripting? Really?
Yes, server rules clearly state that you may not abuse a glitch knowingly or by accident.



You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.
Yes, you have to explicitly do something very unusual to the circumstances given by the encounter and its environment.



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What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.

Here's a thought. Instead of dishing out warnings on the forums, how about you actively try to fix the bug that has been fairly well known for awhile now? And this is AFTER other guilds have done it quite a few times with no repercussions. Classic VG staff. Instead of fixing their broken scripts, they choose to ban people instead.
Thank you, I totally agree with you on this.
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« Reply #1333 on: January 24, 2018, 09:03:19 pm »

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.

oh nice you visit the forums still, thought you were gone lol
when's the new core? or do we lie to the whole community now and dont bother updating? fuck all the people playing on the server ye?
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« Reply #1334 on: January 24, 2018, 09:05:58 pm »

And I would bet money that CE has done it as well, but there's a GM in CE so they probably never got a warning lol. I can't speak on horde guilds because I have barely raided on horde side at all. But you're telling me that over the years not a single horde guild has done this? Lol. That is really laughable.

I know both GGC and EQ has done this before and were never called out on it. It's not that they couldn't kill the boss normally it's because one side died and they didn't actively go kill themselves to the adds. I assume since CE is a combination of GGC and another guild I assume they've done it as well.

I have raided with 3 different GMs. To my knowledge, this wasn't considered a "bannable abuse." At least not back then. Staff should really figure their shit out.
Inb4 - "all those GMs are banned tho reeee"
Yeah well they didnt get banned for this afaik. If they did, maybe the devs/head GM should actually clarify it.

These are the reasons Spox was banned which he claims he didn't do (and quite frankly doesn't make any sense in the first place but that's a story for another day)
Quote from: Spox from BiS forum page
- Randomly spawn lethon 3 times at random different times of day over the last 6 months
- Using powers to complete quests to give myself 9 stacks of Runecloth on Klarice.
- Completing the honored level dread citadel quest on one of my characters which we do for everyone that has a higher level of reputation because it is bugged.
- Teleporting my normal characters

Sota says he did this but questions his ban for it.
Quote from: Sota from GGC forum page
- Fire resistance enchant to legs and helm when only missing the BRD piece for the quest
- ZG idol quest after looting idol from boss so you didnt need to search for a doll
- completing t3 prequest "Echoes of War" to people even month or two after the quest was added to this server.
Hmmm nowhere do I see "Bugging Gothik" anywhere (which he definitely did do).
And I don't know about Hector but I doubt it was included in his ban.


You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.
Yes, you have to explicitly do something very unusual to the circumstances given by the encounter and its environment.
No, if you have a lot of geared melee but your caster group isn't up to par, the casters all die and then all the adds don't aggro to the other side. So unless there are any adds still up on the dead side none spawn and you can't aggro the other adds through the gate. You probably never had to deal with half your raid geared and the other half not but this is pretty common with the state of this server.

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.

Here's a thought. Instead of dishing out warnings on the forums, how about you actively try to fix the bug that has been fairly well known for awhile now? And this is AFTER other guilds have done it quite a few times with no repercussions. Classic VG staff. Instead of fixing their broken scripts, they choose to ban people instead.
Thank you, I totally agree with you on this.

inb4 I am banned I have always done the boss properly and split the groups up and took on both sides and if the adds don't come over we just accept it. If they do then we wipe. Never have I gone into the fight and just skipped the mechanics completely and tried to do this cheese(nor do I think any guild I have been in has). So before threatening raidleaders and Guildmasters why don't you just fix it so we don't have to intentionally kill ourselves to the adds after waiting the rest of the time for the boss to come down off his balcony. It's a huge waste of time.

You might as well start banning all the people who get combat bugged by the broken scripts because it gives warriors an advantage.

Many players know for a long period that some guilds abuse/abused the Gothik bug. Still noone reported anyone and neither did I nor am I going to do so. If you continue to piss me off with you're asshole attitude on this topic I might change my mind though :-)

Calling us out on it and not any other guild ever is basically like you did. Then you proceeded to act like you are better than him again. Just what did we do to you or are you taking your anger about what happened to Marm on us.

Anyyywayy we should all be friends and love each other, not actively trying to sabotage each other. This goes for GameMasters/Admins too. If a rule seems to be doing more harm than good you should try to rethink your punishments/rules instead of sticking to your guns that keep shooting you in the foot.

Respect is running low here on this server.
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