And I would bet money that CE has done it as well, but there's a GM in CE so they probably never got a warning lol. I can't speak on horde guilds because I have barely raided on horde side at all. But you're telling me that over the years not a single horde guild has done this? Lol. That is really laughable.
I know both GGC and EQ has done this before and were never called out on it. It's not that they couldn't kill the boss normally it's because one side died and they didn't actively go kill themselves to the adds. I assume since CE is a combination of GGC and another guild I assume they've done it as well.
I have raided with 3 different GMs. To my knowledge, this wasn't considered a "bannable abuse." At least not back then. Staff should really figure their shit out.
Inb4 - "all those GMs are banned tho reeee"
Yeah well they didnt get banned for this afaik. If they did, maybe the devs/head GM should actually clarify it.
These are the reasons Spox was banned which he claims he didn't do (and quite frankly doesn't make any sense in the first place but that's a story for another day)
- Randomly spawn lethon 3 times at random different times of day over the last 6 months
- Using powers to complete quests to give myself 9 stacks of Runecloth on Klarice.
- Completing the honored level dread citadel quest on one of my characters which we do for everyone that has a higher level of reputation because it is bugged.
- Teleporting my normal characters
Sota says he did this but questions his ban for it.
- Fire resistance enchant to legs and helm when only missing the BRD piece for the quest
- ZG idol quest after looting idol from boss so you didnt need to search for a doll
- completing t3 prequest "Echoes of War" to people even month or two after the quest was added to this server.
Hmmm nowhere do I see "Bugging Gothik" anywhere (which he definitely did do).
And I don't know about Hector but I doubt it was included in his ban.
You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.
Yes, you have to explicitly do something very unusual to the circumstances given by the encounter and its environment.
No, if you have a lot of geared melee but your caster group isn't up to par, the casters all die and then all the adds don't aggro to the other side. So unless there are any adds still up on the dead side none spawn and you can't aggro the other adds through the gate. You probably never had to deal with half your raid geared and the other half not but this is pretty common with the state of this server.
What about all the guilds bugging gothik?
Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.
Here's a thought. Instead of dishing out warnings on the forums, how about you actively try to fix the bug that has been fairly well known for awhile now? And this is AFTER other guilds have done it quite a few times with no repercussions. Classic VG staff. Instead of fixing their broken scripts, they choose to ban people instead.
Thank you, I totally agree with you on this.
inb4 I am banned I have always done the boss properly and split the groups up and took on both sides and if the adds don't come over we just accept it. If they do then we wipe. Never have I gone into the fight and just skipped the mechanics completely and tried to do this cheese(nor do I think any guild I have been in has). So before threatening raidleaders and Guildmasters why don't you just fix it so we don't have to intentionally kill ourselves to the adds after waiting the rest of the time for the boss to come down off his balcony. It's a huge waste of time.
You might as well start banning all the people who get combat bugged by the broken scripts because it gives warriors an advantage.
Many players know for a long period that some guilds abuse/abused the Gothik bug. Still noone reported anyone and neither did I nor am I going to do so. If you continue to piss me off with you're asshole attitude on this topic I might change my mind though :-)
Calling us out on it and not any other guild ever is basically like you did. Then you proceeded to act like you are better than him again. Just what did we do to you or are you taking your anger about what happened to Marm on us.
Anyyywayy we should all be friends and love each other, not actively trying to sabotage each other. This goes for GameMasters/Admins too. If a rule seems to be doing more harm than good you should try to rethink your punishments/rules instead of sticking to your guns that keep shooting you in the foot.
Respect is running low here on this server.
