Re: Working / Not working rogue talents (Calling wannabe testers.)

[Kame]

concerning feint, i have had multiple occasions when overaggroing and hitting feint the mob will drop aggro on me. i dont know about ktm but i dont trust it anyway

[NotArisias]

How would you test murder?

[daeghan]

Spec the same 5 points in the tree the same, then add murder. Both times, track a long bout of fighting the same mobs without it, then with it.

[baddestbad]

How to test murder:
Leave 2 points untalented -> find dragon / human / watever fits with 0 armor -> cast kick -> check damage (should be 80) -> spec 2/2 murder -> kick again -> profit

To realize how feint works you guys need to understand how threat works!
Threat is a flat number u do to the boss as u do damage/healing...
When you do 1k damage without any threat modifiers(blessing of salvation, tranq totem, talents) you will do 1k threat also... When the character with aggro on the boss gets beaten in threat done by a certain percentage (unsure about vanilla values) then the aggro goes to the guy "overagroing". To get back the aggro from the boss the tank needs to beat the new "MT" by a certain percentage again... So after you did 50k threat on the boss and tank did 50k also if you overagro by jumping to 55k then -500 threat from feint will usually not remove the aggro from you, death however will do so...

The original retail feint did -650 threat iirc, and ours does -500 approx... I am unsure of these values however and they need to be reconfirmed, as the guy that did the original testing  did this "many months ago"

[Nimo]

think it takes 10% melee and 15% casters to overagro on the tank.

[Kame]

well that explains alot, ty deeps

[SolutionReigns]

So.. has anyone tested Murder yet?

[Akum]

Murder does work.
Any 1 recently tested Sword spec proc rates? I feel even after *they were fixed* some LU`s ago, they are still quite far away from retail-like.
Also if there are rogues keen on testing stuff, take a look @ our nerfed eviscrate atm.
Regards.

[Pucchini]

I always wondered how to test the sword specialization proc here. Any ideas, Akum?

[Emiras]

I always wondered how to test the sword specialization proc here. Any ideas, Akum?

I've tested sword spec and confirmed it working. SCT will display Sword Spec procs and the added white damage is displayed properly. My only issue, with no way to prove it, is that it seems to proc WAY less than it did in Vanilla.

[Akum]

Exactly, we all know it works but same as you i do feel it underprocs compared to retail. Also I am not entirely sure it procs off special attacks(sinister/hemmo/evisc), it was said to be fixed a while ago but once you get the "Extra attack animation off a special, you dont really get an "extra attack", it feel more like as if your swing timer gets reseted which in most cases would be as big dps increase as getting a real extra attack. Still we would need a tester to make proper testing on that one and give us the results.

[Pucchini]

I always wondered how to test the sword specialization proc here. Any ideas, Akum?

I've tested sword spec and confirmed it working. SCT will display Sword Spec procs and the added white damage is displayed properly. My only issue, with no way to prove it, is that it seems to proc WAY less than it did in Vanilla.

Gotta look into this because I never seen SCT displaying it for me, thanks for the hint tho!

[Ergamemnon]

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