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1  Community / General Chat / Re: Overview PUG Raids on VG on: May 22, 2018, 06:59:10 pm
yday was superdowns (BiS??) MC pug around 02 00 ST.

Is it every week ?

Yes, the time listed on here is not correct for the BiS MC pug on Monday. Superdowns/Hecks run this BiS MC pug every Monday at around 01:45 ST.

I think there is a different MC pug at EU times on Monday as well, cannot confirm. But the BiS one is at NA times.

You can also change the Sunday BiS bwl pug to Thursday at 01:45 ST.
2  Staff / GM / Dev Applications / Re: Brawnzy's GM app on: March 20, 2018, 04:22:57 am
Part of selecting a GM is ignoring your app for extended periods of time to see how you react.

Brawnzy's app was posted on January 29, 2018. No response yet.

Pucchini's app was posted on March 9, 2018. GM response on March 18, 2018.

So your comment makes no sense sprinkle.

Does the staff really just not care about NA players that much? Or do they hate NA players?

Brawnzy has been playing on the server for awhile and has offered to help out the staff because there is literally 0 support during NA hours. There are only EU GMs. The NA population just keeps getting worse because the bug ridden server provides no assistance for NA players whatsoever. I guess it's logical to recruit ANOTHER EU GM.

The fact that staff members are clearly browsing the forums and can't even provide a simple response is ridiculous. He submitted his app over a month before Pucchini. Pucchini got a response in about a week and Brawnzy still hasn't gotten anything. At least say something like "It's being discussed." Is that really so hard? Obviously it is for whatever reason. EU favoritism? NA distrust? Whatever the case may be, a response is still simple to provide.

On a side note, since I guess I didn't respond earlier, huge +1 if staff cares. He's a very knowledgeable and mature individual. Would be a great addition to the team.

Also, gz Pucchini for getting a response. Hope it comes out to be what you were looking for.
3  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: March 02, 2018, 05:49:48 am
<Best in Slot> has ended the week with a 4hm and sapph kill! Easily 1 shot sapph after a few attempts on 4hm.

Even had time to do an unprepared KT attempt. Phase 1 complete and KT at 98% wooo! Real attempts soon to come Smiley

4  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: February 16, 2018, 08:49:15 am
Haven't updated this in awhile. Please update <Best in Slot> guild info. Thanks.

<Best in Slot>
Raid Timezone: US
GM/Senior Officers: Brawnzy, Bremius, Efthalia, Imaspinner
Website: bestinslot.net
Loot Distribution: DKP
Raid Schedule: Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday
5  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: February 09, 2018, 08:04:55 am
<Best in Slot> pushes forward to clear 12/15 in 2 raid nights to end the week! Thaddius down and a 100% real Gothik kill with another screenshot for the naysayers. Gonna clean it all up next week and maybe even get in some 4hm attempts!

6  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: February 02, 2018, 06:48:00 am
Solid end to the week with some more progression for <Best in Slot>!

Gluth down and some good attempts on Thaddius.

7  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 29, 2018, 06:55:50 am
Server crash and id resets last week can't stop our progression!

<Best in Slot> has downed Loatheb and Grobbulus!

8  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 26, 2018, 08:56:57 pm
<Best in Slot> has downed PW! Quite unfortunate the server decided to die just before we pulled loatheb with full world buffs. Hoping to throw in a quick extra raid before weekly reset and get 2 more progression kills Smiley

9  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 24, 2018, 09:16:06 pm
You're missing most of the point of my post Pucchini.
But hi, currently officer and priest CL of Best in Slot, playing here since 2015 on ally side. Former officer/priest CL in 4 other ally guilds. Guess you dont make it over to ally side much and I dont make it over to horde side much.

In every guild I have been a part of I have pursued to kill every encounter without abusing any flaw in VG's scripting. I think I've done a fairly good job so far.

Apparently Chaos killing KT has inflated some egos on horde side, but that's alright. I'm sure an ally guild will step up to match you guys soon enough.

It's been known for quite some time. I'm not using this as an excuse to kill Gothik by these means. I'm a priest main so, as a high and mighty raider of Chaos, you must know that I shackle mobs on this fight. Why in the world would I want to kill myself and fail at my job in order to kill the boss? By no means have the guilds that I have been in have ever actively sought out and tried to use the bug in order to kill the boss. I have not been raid leader nor guild leader in any of these guilds. I have also never been disciplined by staff on VG before and have never intended to go out of my way to abuse bugs. Yes, I have gotten many clean kills on Gothik in the past and I intend to continue doing so.

You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.
Yes, you have to explicitly do something very unusual to the circumstances given by the encounter and its environment.
For someone who has never seen the bug before and "pursued to kill every encounter without abusing any flaw in VG's scripting," you seem to act as if you have an awful lot of knowledge of how this works. Are you sure you haven't cheesed Gothik once or twice? And you are also wrong.

On a side note, I'm pretty sure your guild leader has been a part of these kills and I bet others in your guild have too, whether it be in Chaos or another guild.

(Prohpecy this... Perseverance that... Hector was GM... BiS too...)
"Mommy, Sarah got a pony and now I want a pony too!!!111"
This makes you sound like the asshole, just saying. My points about other guilds are 100% valid and on topic. If you are too dense to see that and respond in a childish fashion, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

The point is numerous other guilds have done it in the past, whether on purpose or on accident, and those guilds all had staff members in them. These guilds/guild leaders never received any sort of warnings. They have used the bug even before I knew that it was a bug and had staff members in the guilds. Which means staff members were 100% aware of this bug, abused it with their guilds, and never did anything about it. So why is it all of a sudden only on BiS's shoulders and is a huge problem NOW. No one else has ever received warnings or been informed this is considered "bannable abuse" in the past before.

If Spox and Hector both knew and used this then it can be reasonably inferred that EQ, GGC, Perse, Proph, CE, BiS, Everest, and probably horde guilds as well including DP have used it. Not because they weren't capable of doing the fight normally but simply because something went wrong on live side and the melee just continued the boss fight without them. You dont have to do anything out of the ordinary to trigger the bug. The live side just goes up to the platforms and stands there while Gothik runs over to the melee.

So once again, why in the world is this all of a sudden only on BiS's shoulders. Smh, makes no sense.

Maybe I'm biased because it's my guild under fire right now, but it seems awfully suspicious that the staff CLEARLY knew about this for quite some time and ONLY decides to say something to a guild that doesnt have a staff member in it.

So if you have a GM in your guild are you allowed to abuse bugs without repercussions?

Why cant the devs put their time to better use and just either FIX BUGS or RELEASE THE NEW CORE???
10  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 24, 2018, 07:40:13 pm
Hopefully next week we can get a clean kill and not have to cheese it, but progression is progression.


If you encounter a bug, always report this on our forums.
When you are not certain if something in particular is bugged or not, allowed or forbidden, always make a ticket or forum post about it before proceeding

Players are never to use or abuse server sided issues/glitches. Exception applies to bugs that cannot be avoided in normal behaviour unless specifically forbidden.

Who is caught using server sided issues can count on penalties varying from warning to (temp.) suspension, depending on the gravity of the abuse.

Oh please, step down from your high horse. Who even are you to talk shit, never heard of you before. This has been bugged for quite awhile and nothing has been done about it. And why bother reporting something now when devs will just say "wait for new core lul." Are we supposed to just all suicide in order to PREVENT the bug from happening? Raids have to go out of their way to actively work AGAINST poor VG scripting? Really? You dont even have to do anything to make it work necessarily.

Furthermore, over the years of playing on VG, I have seen Prophecy and Perseverance both do this to kill Gothik. A former GM by the name of Hector was in our raids and was also the guild leader of Perseverance at a point. BiS did it at one point when Spox was leading and was a GM. I'm pretty sure Everest had to do this for their first Gothik kill as well a few weeks back and supposedly a GM was in their raid too. Do those guilds just get a free pass to abuse as much as they want because a GM is in their guild?

And I would bet money that CE has done it as well, but there's a GM in CE so they probably never got a warning lol. I can't speak on horde guilds because I have barely raided on horde side at all. But you're telling me that over the years not a single horde guild has done this? Lol. That is really laughable.

I have raided with 3 different GMs. To my knowledge, this wasn't considered a "bannable abuse." At least not back then. Staff should really figure their shit out.
Inb4 - "all those GMs are banned tho reeee"
Yeah well they didnt get banned for this afaik. If they did, maybe the devs/head GM should actually clarify it.
Let's just start banning entire guilds because VG scripting doesnt work. Start the unjustified purges and we'll see what really happens to the already low population.

What about all the guilds bugging gothik?

Not allowed. Guild Masters and Raid leaders beware, you might be held accountable.

Here's a thought. Instead of dishing out warnings on the forums, how about you actively try to fix the bug that has been fairly well known for awhile now? And this is AFTER other guilds have done it quite a few times with no repercussions. Classic VG staff. Instead of fixing their broken scripts, they choose to ban people instead. Even when you dont have to really do anything to trigger the bug. This is just absurd.
11  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 24, 2018, 06:42:08 am
<Best in Slot> is now 7/15 Naxx. 1st attempt on Gothik. Hopefully next week we can get a clean kill and not have to cheese it, but progression is progression. At least it is all BiS guild tags Tongue

A solid 1st attempt on Loatheb but time kept us from pushing further. Big PW and Loatheb progression coming up to end the week on Thursday!

12  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: January 04, 2018, 09:55:09 am
Obligatory Ayag post:
The guild must have defeated a boss from molten core (or higher) atleast once with a raid of players all from the same guild.
I'm sorry, I see some Unique members in there.
But at least you got some practice!
Good luck for next week!

jk xD

Gratz Everest, big progress! Good luck on more. Hopefully BiS will be right on your heels once we fully come back from holiday break Tongue
13  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: December 13, 2017, 06:42:04 am
Actual progression pic just in case anyone questions the validity, again. All <Best in Slot> guild tags. Check em.

14  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: December 13, 2017, 06:40:32 am
<Best in Slot> dances further into Naxx with a Heigan kill for 6/15! Or wait...is that Perseverance? At least we got some good practice I guess Tongue

Thanks for keeping us on our toes Ayag. Made us even more determined to get some progression done tonight. Even got some attempts in on pw. Hopefully gonna see some pw, grobb, and gothik on Thursday!

15  Community / Guild Recruitment / Re: VanillaGaming PvE-Guild Progression on: December 11, 2017, 06:21:35 am
Big progression night for <Best in Sot>! Maex and Noth both downed! 5/15 Naxx now

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