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Title: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pepethekek on December 02, 2019, 07:36:05 am
what do you like/dislike about it?

dislikes - harder bosses, invis pots break after you mount (before they didnt), had to get an addon for Target's health (only shows % rather than health), and some others, world chat is combined, Cenarior Circle in Silithus mobs respawn every minute. impossible to solo rep grind as SPriest with ok gear.
likes - cross faction chat but needs a separate channel for allies/horde, and only show "0" when /who on a cross faction person. otherwise you can gank him by tracking him/group easily.

maybe allow cross faction invites to group. so once you're in raid > allies and could raid together.

that's all i could think of now.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: MarlaBellman on December 04, 2019, 02:45:34 am
Not exactly. I have several comments about it and evert questions.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: marm _ on December 04, 2019, 03:16:15 am
idk vanish finally work so cant rly complain


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Zeard on December 04, 2019, 10:46:27 am
So to those voting on the minus side, would be great if you could comment on whats wrong.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: yaojin on December 04, 2019, 11:54:11 am
PTR rewards are missing



Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: AzzA on December 04, 2019, 12:27:26 pm
So i personally voted on the 3rd option that yes the new core is good but deffantly some changes should be made.

Biggest one of all is mats so herbs,ore,juju,fish etc pritty much everything related to consumables, i think that VG always was good that you could get to raiding and have cons and it was prittty chill to get never really felt like you had to sell your soul jst to farm your cons.

Another point i would also like to put on the matter is with the limited player base atm having cons abit more accessable would help a long way with player retention.

Now we have mechanics working more as they where inended pair that with cons that are a tad bit less time consumin to get and you have a winning combination.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Argif on December 04, 2019, 12:27:56 pm
In my opinion, server needs to be as closest as blizzlike as possible.So please, dont add increased rates for loot,gold,plants,quest items etc. Leveling rate should be 1x(without 5x and 15x by any means) because in this version of the WoW leveling was very important experience. PvP and PvE are now scripted properly, arent they, thats fine. And last thing...I'm not big fan of server shop ,donation and voting rewards, we shouldnt have shop at all, but it's ok, I'm aware the server has to make some profit, even Blizzard is making profit from it's customers.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: marm _ on December 04, 2019, 05:21:29 pm
@zeard fire totems still dont crit (


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Asteracc2 on December 04, 2019, 06:10:13 pm
the reason people play on vg and myself now that i dont have time is that there are/was quality of life things that removed alot of the monotony this core is great for raids i mean zg is no longer boring aq has some nice mechanics onyxia is a bit buggy spamming fireballs conflagging the raid all day i have yet to see other raids so this core is a hit and miss thing now that the nodes are higher thats a good thing to have back it cuts down farming time i have yet t farm cloth but it seems the drop rates were lowered tho i dont mind farming mobs quests work nice and have great scripts like the ony attunement chain respeccing is locked to 50g on my warr that just got unbanned to respec it i had to pay 50g on my paladin i have only respecced once since i returned is 50g lowering this may be a nice thing to have thats all i have for now


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pepethekek on December 05, 2019, 09:48:03 am
In my opinion, server needs to be as closest as blizzlike as possible.So please, dont add increased rates for loot,gold,plants,quest items etc. Leveling rate should be 1x(without 5x and 15x by any means) because in this version of the WoW leveling was very important experience. PvP and PvE are now scripted properly, arent they, thats fine. And last thing...I'm not big fan of server shop ,donation and voting rewards, we shouldnt have shop at all, but it's ok, I'm aware the server has to make some profit, even Blizzard is making profit from it's customers.

you stumbled across the wrong server. the new core ruined a lot of things to begin with. now you wanna go full blown 100% blizz like like classic. but this is why many come here. easy leveling and then grinding at 60 like the real game. if this is implemented, it could actually increase the people here, or kill the pop even further. cuz i know 1x/everything blizzlike servers attract the most people.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: ZeleZZZ on December 05, 2019, 12:37:34 pm
IMHO max xp rate x5 would be optimal.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Asteracc2 on December 06, 2019, 12:52:56 am
In my opinion, server needs to be as closest as blizzlike as possible.So please, dont add increased rates for loot,gold,plants,quest items etc. Leveling rate should be 1x(without 5x and 15x by any means) because in this version of the WoW leveling was very important experience. PvP and PvE are now scripted properly, arent they, thats fine. And last thing...I'm not big fan of server shop ,donation and voting rewards, we shouldnt have shop at all, but it's ok, I'm aware the server has to make some profit, even Blizzard is making profit from it's customers.

you stumbled across the wrong server. the new core ruined a lot of things to begin with. now you wanna go full blown 100% blizz like like classic. but this is why many come here. easy leveling and then grinding at 60 like the real game. if this is implemented, it could actually increase the people here, or kill the pop even further. cuz i know 1x/everything blizzlike servers attract the most people.
im sure i didnt stumble to the wrong server i have been here for 10 years now and it was casual
easy leveling easy raids easy dungeons easy rankings people complained about this so raids got harder dungeons got harder and people even asked for x1 leveling which is optional people kept complaining scripts scripts scripts so now we have a new core due to the constant complaining  only thing is to deal with it now quality of life things are gone many of our fun little bugs are gone only thing left to do is either learn to play with this or leave and the good thing is zeard is taking feedback so how about just mentioning what you dont like of it and see if zeard fixes it in all my years here i have never seen zeard take feedback of the server so take advantage of that its usually sins who does that


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pepethekek on December 07, 2019, 12:30:07 pm
In my opinion, server needs to be as closest as blizzlike as possible.So please, dont add increased rates for loot,gold,plants,quest items etc. Leveling rate should be 1x(without 5x and 15x by any means) because in this version of the WoW leveling was very important experience. PvP and PvE are now scripted properly, arent they, thats fine. And last thing...I'm not big fan of server shop ,donation and voting rewards, we shouldnt have shop at all, but it's ok, I'm aware the server has to make some profit, even Blizzard is making profit from it's customers.

you stumbled across the wrong server. the new core ruined a lot of things to begin with. now you wanna go full blown 100% blizz like like classic. but this is why many come here. easy leveling and then grinding at 60 like the real game. if this is implemented, it could actually increase the people here, or kill the pop even further. cuz i know 1x/everything blizzlike servers attract the most people.
im sure i didnt stumble to the wrong server i have been here for 10 years now and it was casual
easy leveling easy raids easy dungeons easy rankings people complained about this so raids got harder dungeons got harder and people even asked for x1 leveling which is optional people kept complaining scripts scripts scripts so now we have a new core due to the constant complaining  only thing is to deal with it now quality of life things are gone many of our fun little bugs are gone only thing left to do is either learn to play with this or leave and the good thing is zeard is taking feedback so how about just mentioning what you dont like of it and see if zeard fixes it in all my years here i have never seen zeard take feedback of the server so take advantage of that its usually sins who does that

well, i was never a hardcore wow player. so for me, the harder=the less fun i have in the game. i mean, retail exists for a reason. you can now just go play it. playing it on a private on hardmode is retarded, but thats just me. but yeah, go ahead and change server to 1x. as long as we dont gotta relevel our toons. i dont care. like i already said, it would either raise the pop drastically or kill it since vanilla is already out... and no other privates left besides this one, and the rest are even smaller and irrelevant. people may be looking for 1x but this is all they could find. but then again, people may all have left to classic. who knows, and who cares?

if you ask me, vg should allow to donate for the best gear in game. i dont have energy nor time to grind for gear.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Argif on December 07, 2019, 03:33:58 pm
In my opinion, server needs to be as closest as blizzlike as possible.So please, dont add increased rates for loot,gold,plants,quest items etc. Leveling rate should be 1x(without 5x and 15x by any means) because in this version of the WoW leveling was very important experience. PvP and PvE are now scripted properly, arent they, thats fine. And last thing...I'm not big fan of server shop ,donation and voting rewards, we shouldnt have shop at all, but it's ok, I'm aware the server has to make some profit, even Blizzard is making profit from it's customers.

you stumbled across the wrong server. the new core ruined a lot of things to begin with. now you wanna go full blown 100% blizz like like classic. but this is why many come here. easy leveling and then grinding at 60 like the real game. if this is implemented, it could actually increase the people here, or kill the pop even further. cuz i know 1x/everything blizzlike servers attract the most people.
im sure i didnt stumble to the wrong server i have been here for 10 years now and it was casual
easy leveling easy raids easy dungeons easy rankings people complained about this so raids got harder dungeons got harder and people even asked for x1 leveling which is optional people kept complaining scripts scripts scripts so now we have a new core due to the constant complaining  only thing is to deal with it now quality of life things are gone many of our fun little bugs are gone only thing left to do is either learn to play with this or leave and the good thing is zeard is taking feedback so how about just mentioning what you dont like of it and see if zeard fixes it in all my years here i have never seen zeard take feedback of the server so take advantage of that its usually sins who does that

well, i was never a hardcore wow player. so for me, the harder=the less fun i have in the game. i mean, retail exists for a reason. you can now just go play it. playing it on a private on hardmode is retarded, but thats just me. but yeah, go ahead and change server to 1x. as long as we dont gotta relevel our toons. i dont care. like i already said, it would either raise the pop drastically or kill it since vanilla is already out... and no other privates left besides this one, and the rest are even smaller and irrelevant. people may be looking for 1x but this is all they could find. but then again, people may all have left to classic. who knows, and who cares?

if you ask me, vg should allow to donate for the best gear in game. i dont have energy nor time to grind for gear.
Being "best" at World of Warcraft doesnt mean nothing. Either being hardcore or semicore player doesnt make any difference. Completely up to you,will you decide to play 12 or 2 hours per day. Everyone has their own reasons for starting playing here on this server. Back to point,literally I was about to say : new core == new beginning, therefore we should strive to be as closest as blizzlike.Classic will not last forever, every single patch Blizzard has ever made didnt last forever and that is golden opportunity for VG to attract more people in the future.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Brainpower on December 07, 2019, 04:27:48 pm
i can stil become dwarffish so i'm happy kthxbye


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: horna on December 07, 2019, 06:29:08 pm
First off, thanks guys! Its been a while since the rumours started. And the amount of work to implement a new core is massive, I really appreciate it, so many things are now working as intented, or very close to.
And a big shoutout to the admins that have been here since the dinosours roamed the earth, dealing with our antics and keeping this alive.

I'm especially appreciative that the "Fixate" affix on some of the Bats in ZG and Zombies in Scholo is no longer broken, while the mechanic was correct, the effect was backwards.

While im very glad that most bossfights and mob mechanics are scripted near what they were in retail there are still things amiss that could do with some fixing.

Admittedly I havent done alot of testing since the new core came out but here's what i've noted so far:

-NPC Spelldamage seems to be overtuned on some mobs in Scholo and Strat, and some mobs dont seem to have either a cooldown or channelingtime for spells, this goes for the first two rooms of mobs in Scholomance, and most of the casters in Stratholme if you want to test it.
-FeralBears are ragestarved, and no longer generate appropriate amount of rage to maintain aggro, about a third short to be effective. (Massive change from before where there was an overabundance of rage)
-The healthpools are no longer showing. Everyone and everything is at 100/100hp regardless of the real values.

Then there's some quality of life changes that came along with the new core, but with the old one there were unquestionably some that were absoloute gems quality wize.
-8h AH no-deposit. Resulted in people just posting what they had, rather than cherrypicking what had the biggest chances of a sale. That in turn made the AH hold auctions of all the things steadily, rather than a limited supply of cherrypicked items, it keeps the server more lively. Could well do with that again.
-Black lotus drops. The droprates, or should I say spawnrates on black lotuses has been significantly decreased from what it was before, and for any progressing or end game farming guid that's a huge handicap since its used for all the flasks.

Now, having said all this I still wanna literate my appreciation towards the new core.
And as always, with new stuff comes new stuff. Some will hate, some wont. I prefer a balance of the two and stick to the middle.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pepethekek on December 11, 2019, 07:26:39 am
more dislikes from me

-cannot buff low levels
-server pop is extremely low, which shows that people are unhappy with the new core. i just logged and it had 19 people total. 19!!! of Horde and Alliance. I remember the deadest i would ever see was like 29 on Alliance, so total it would be around 60.

one guy i was talking to general even told me "this is true blizzlike. who would pay for this?" i agree, actually. but okay. some of you are happy. that's great. hope you enjoy it. i havent played seriously in a while, but just shocked at all the changes.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pucchini on December 11, 2019, 11:19:34 am
To me, VG was always about having raids that work without obvious bugs.
I never valued the blizzlikeness too heavily because encounters have been working in a way that's challenging and fun.

Besides the difficulty given by how VG's encounters were under- and overtuned another advantage is the ease of getting into raiding! All resources were available in rich quantities making it easy to require people to put in some basic level of dedication to farm their stuff without getting into the hassle of fighting over stuff.

Also VG was unique in how it handled multiboxing. The rules didn't change but I don't know whether mboxing/starting to mbox is feasible on the new core.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Ezpzpk/awoo/nouveele on December 11, 2019, 07:03:21 pm
please fix world chat so that you cant see the other faction, all it is is jackasses talking shit on eachother all day about who pwned who better in WSG and its toxic, and full of salt.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Brainpower on December 12, 2019, 01:53:15 am
please fix world chat so that you cant see the other faction, all it is is jackasses talking shit on eachother all day about who pwned who better in WSG and its toxic, and full of salt.
this is litterly what VG worldchat has become.
tho even if you block this the horde / alliance wil log there opposite chars toons and go make drama.
it cant rlly get fixed and wil only lead in server looking more dead


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pucchini on December 13, 2019, 10:35:47 am
Logging a acc/char on the other faction is how it's always been. You can't change people and their jerk behaviour so the only thing you can do is raising the barrier of doing malicious things.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Gogopwranger on December 13, 2019, 07:32:15 pm
world chat seems to be split again but you can still track people with /who


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: Pepethekek on December 14, 2019, 10:17:10 pm
please fix world chat so that you cant see the other faction, all it is is jackasses talking shit on eachother all day about who pwned who better in WSG and its toxic, and full of salt.
this is litterly what VG worldchat has become.
tho even if you block this the horde / alliance wil log there opposite chars toons and go make drama.
it cant rlly get fixed and wil only lead in server looking more dead

please fix world chat so that you cant see the other faction, all it is is jackasses talking shit on eachother all day about who pwned who better in WSG and its toxic, and full of salt.

i actually like cross chat, i just dont like world being shared by 2 factions.

world chat seems to be split again but you can still track people with /who

and this as well. plz make it so that when you /who the opposite faction, it just says "0". that's how it was on funscape servers (the most popular BC server of its time). and you could cross chat in general or any zone u enter. just not in world/trade.


Title: Re: are you Happy with the New Core?
Post by: devonc0 on May 22, 2021, 05:19:31 am
Love the new core aside from one thing:  unsure if flaw, but definitely a QoL improvement.

Mind Control is so tightly leashed and I really think we could get more out of Mind Control and increase the desire of priests to play with it, if we could either do away with the leash, or greatly increase the radius.