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Title: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 12:26:11 am
Played WSG for 1 and half hour 2-0 for us then when i did def got saped buy player Strawie meanwhile my team tryed to get flag and since they was mid when i got saped after 3 seconds i asked for Flag and they told me Enemy Tunnel but before i asked for flag Player Strawie Droped and picked up flag for some reason when i was not able to see him , and later also when y was Mid Near enemy tunnel player Svi Picked up Flag asked for etc they did not know also Player Svi Droped and Picked Up FLAG  and when i asked whear is flag they did not know since i was near enemy tunnel i was going  in for flag  and boom Hes there with flag .


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 12:30:07 am
Can confirm this, since i was in the same WSG. If this is some clever use of game mechancis that im not aware of, someone please care to share? If not, i believe this is abuse of some sort or simply a server bug, that again, i was not aware of.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Biological / Gorgeuss on May 08, 2016, 12:44:06 am
Is it just me that had trouble reading thunderblind's text and understood nothing at all?


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 12:46:26 am
tbh his english is under 9000


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 12:48:47 am
tldr, after picking up the flag, it took less than a moment for efc to jump from H base to A base and cap. This happened twice. Game was hard and lasted for over an hour but most of us feel a bit cheated and pissed cus such a loss :D


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Sizzlelele on May 08, 2016, 12:51:52 am
I was also in the same WSG game and I can confirm this too, not sure how or why they get the enemy base so fast, boots and sprints I know but not that quick..


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 12:53:12 am
tbh his english is under 9000
xD


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: wopwop on May 08, 2016, 01:07:22 am
Did H drop the flag meanwhile ?
How long (ish) did it take from the pickup to cap ?
Did this happen more than once ?
What happens if you use invis pot and take the flag ?
Can someone try to explain the event once more, but with anglish ?


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 01:15:08 am
Did H drop the flag meanwhile ? Saped me Picked up flag run away in tunnel Droped Picked Up flag and he was their tunnel
How long (ish) did it take from the pickup to cap ? from picking to asking about flag 4-6 second he got to their tunnel
Did this happen more than once ? One Time Strawie second time Svi
What happens if you use invis pot and take the flag ? You cant when you use invis pot while holding flag you drop it
Can someone try to explain the event once more, but with anglish ? is like this ok correct mistaken words


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Strawie on May 08, 2016, 01:26:59 am
Yeah this didnt happen... Don't recall sapping Thunderblind at the time, pretty sure i was just chilling in mid, probably was another human female rogue.
Droped and picked up flag for some reason
And that's called vanish.
Making abuse threads just because you lost is a new low for the horde.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 01:28:32 am
which rank of vanish do u have? i still havnt managed to learn the one with teleport perk


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Strawie on May 08, 2016, 01:29:53 am
Sure, I decided to try teleport hacking after i got r14, your logic is flawless.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 01:39:59 am
thank you. tho my mind still cant comprehend capping flag in a time span of ~10 sec.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 01:51:44 am
Sure, I decided to try teleport hacking after i got r14, your logic is flawless.
You got flag you saped me and probably was another human female rogue. lol  another human female rogue with flag that you picked up ?


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Strawie on May 08, 2016, 01:54:30 am
If anything fishy happened here it was serverside, how long are you gonna be butthurt about losing a game?


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Nimo on May 08, 2016, 02:07:06 am
id say 24hours as period when GMs can examine what happened is enough to get over it.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 02:14:55 am
If anything fishy happened here it was serverside, how long are you gonna be butthurt about losing a game?
It's not about losing game it's about that shit  you  did,more players said same , stop pretend you are nice


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Lowhealth on May 08, 2016, 03:28:22 am
Strawie is Not pretending to be nice but simply saying it like it is. You are attempting to start a witchhunt based on no ground ( which you are even admitting, making this thread point less to begin  with) while ignoring the obvious. Strawie made it to be the first r14 under the new system after months of grinding honor. That being said it can be pretty much 99.9% certain that strawie didn't suddenly start hacking to get honor which is pointless to get at this point in time. Your claim that it was even 2 different players using the same back in the same game makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. It was most likely a serversided problem ( probably related to the flag messages in chat ) and that's all there is to it, so just drop it already. Knowing strawie myself for a long time I can vouch for the remaining 0.01% uncertainty, strawie is not the kind of player who would use hacks or any other kinds of 3rd Party Programms to gain advantages ingame.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Zzsszzsszz on May 08, 2016, 05:06:23 am
This is an egregious violation of server rules.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: TheNuld on May 08, 2016, 05:51:43 am
If both sides have flag, and horde drops it, and alliance can drop their flag and repick up their flag and it bugs and returns hordes. there has been another bug where if both drop flag and the oppsing team returns fast enough it repicks the flag.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 09:29:51 am
Strawie is Not pretending to be nice but simply saying it like it is. You are attempting to start a witchhunt based on no ground ( which you are even admitting, making this thread point less to begin  with) while ignoring the obvious. Strawie made it to be the first r14 under the new system after months of grinding honor. That being said it can be pretty much 99.9% certain that strawie didn't suddenly start hacking to get honor which is pointless to get at this point in time. Your claim that it was even 2 different players using the same back in the same game makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. It was most likely a serversided problem ( probably related to the flag messages in chat ) and that's all there is to it, so just drop it already. Knowing strawie myself for a long time I can vouch for the remaining 0.01% uncertainty, strawie is not the kind of player who would use hacks or any other kinds of 3rd Party Programms to gain advantages ingame.
i know what i saw


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: RylVG on May 08, 2016, 09:36:08 am
If both sides have flag, and horde drops it, and alliance can drop their flag and repick up their flag and it bugs and returns hordes. there has been another bug where if both drop flag and the oppsing team returns fast enough it repicks the flag.

pretty sure it was that kind of bug. did see the same stuff a few months back sometimes, feels bad to lose a BG that way :/

i do not say that one did it on purpose, but you could do it (at least a few months back)


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Treborg on May 08, 2016, 09:52:42 am
for real I dont understand what are you talking about, I used google translate and text become even worse


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Chabalala on May 08, 2016, 09:56:05 am
Yes, this is a known bug and I think I made another topic about this. Happens when you kill enemy FC and return flag, at same moment you automatically recieve the enemy flag and are able to cap it in no time. Seen it happen several times. If Strawie was any normal he should have dropped the flag, instead of this he abussed and capped. Deserves a warning atleast.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: llinlol on May 08, 2016, 09:58:12 am
maybe Strawie just ran zone?


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Lanori on May 08, 2016, 10:20:48 am
What a waste of 5 minutes of my life.. WARNING: DO NOT BOTHER READING THIS THREAD!!!


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: sveznajucastena on May 08, 2016, 10:25:06 am
I still can't believe that something trivial like WSG isn't scripted properly.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Cheald Lawl on May 08, 2016, 11:42:46 am
Is it just me that had trouble reading thunderblind's text and understood nothing at all?
no you are not :3


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thessy on May 08, 2016, 11:48:11 am
So this is an VERY old bug that multiple people has explained. I was in this warsong and i was keeping check on our fc pretty decently.  There was no form of abuse in Strawie's cap but a bug.(i and strawie was defending ON the flagspot since dudus need to hum-form when they pick. So efter the returm we returned to our def spot and the flag got cap. Since i can only talk about myself with certainty, i didnt notice nor picked up on the fact that she had with the drop/returm bug got the flag.

And the other rogue u claimed to cheat he ran all the way from ebase to cap in a normal rogue-speed.

So can we lock this witch hunt of a thread and move on. If misspells and potato sentences its because im typing on my phone.


Have a nice sunday /T


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Gnoem on May 08, 2016, 12:29:03 pm
I feel dizzy after reading your posts Thunderblind.. Pls ask for help in future when you want to write something on forums


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Thunderblind on May 08, 2016, 12:42:14 pm
Mesage for Everione if you are here to shit on somone if he whrite somthing bad then fuck off simple do not comment if you dont have answer what happen here thank you.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Fadeas on May 08, 2016, 01:19:37 pm
There was no hacks involved, when one side returns the flag and other side drops flag to repick it at the same time (vanish/ice block/bop) instead of returning the flag to the base the player will get the opponent's flag since the server cannot recognize if the dropped flag is alliance/horde in the split of a second. This happens sometimes.

@Thunderblind there is no need for that Trump's attitude if you do not present a single valid argument/proof or anything similar to back yourself up, telling people to shut up and fuck off when they question your credibitlity.

Making so much drama out of something like this in anger is just not going to get you anywhere, especially with your kind of attitude.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Multilock on May 08, 2016, 02:54:33 pm
Just as Lanori said, this has been a big waste of my time, nearly got cancer from reading this thread...


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Cohle on May 08, 2016, 06:11:14 pm
It seems that it would be in everyone's interest not to drop the flag in future


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: shaba on May 08, 2016, 08:59:58 pm
So this is an VERY old bug that multiple people has explained. I was in this warsong and i was keeping check on our fc pretty decently.  There was no form of abuse in Strawie's cap but a bug.(i and strawie was defending ON the flagspot since dudus need to hum-form when they pick. So efter the returm we returned to our def spot and the flag got cap. Since i can only talk about myself with certainty, i didnt notice nor picked up on the fact that she had with the drop/returm bug got the flag.

And the other rogue u claimed to cheat he ran all the way from ebase to cap in a normal rogue-speed.

So can we lock this witch hunt of a thread and move on. If misspells and potato sentences its because im typing on my phone.


Have a nice sunday /T


yeah thessy explained something that everyone knows and should have been figured out in page 1. Its been a bug for ages, and no alliance and horde haven't been abusing it but taking advantage of it since it started happening because its so hard to regulate that just taking advantage of it evens it out in the long run rather than hoping the other team will drop the flag when it happens each time.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: mediocre20 on May 08, 2016, 10:11:09 pm
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Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: rockvellon on May 09, 2016, 12:23:06 am
/cry ... great story !


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: ohkillem on May 10, 2016, 10:45:17 pm
Funky stuff can happen when picks and returns happen at the same time.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: ssjlouie on May 14, 2016, 03:45:49 pm
You're not supposed to be able to carry the flag in stealth so being able to sap with the flag is a flaw of the server. IDK I wasn't there


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Daionor on May 14, 2016, 04:20:05 pm
You're not supposed to be able to carry the flag in stealth so being able to sap with the flag is a flaw of the server. IDK I wasn't there

I think it was saying they sapped just before taking it.


Title: Re: No proof but insane.
Post by: Alda on May 14, 2016, 04:47:55 pm
maybe Strawie just ran zone?