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1  Support / Cheaters & Bans / Re: Stolen Guild Bank on: January 13, 2019, 10:33:35 am
From the beginning, When dv was created three players had access to the bank, Chess, Pilze and Vlako. These three were the guilds founders more or less. Eventually there were arguments between me and Pilze on how things should be done and how to best lead the guild. So as our arguments continued I requested that Pilzes officer status be reviewed by the officer team as I questioned his ability to be a good officer.  Pilze did not like this and got upset and threatened to steal the guild bank, so Vlako (on Chess request) moved the stuff on the guild bank to a new account to avoid losing it, this is why Vlako owned the bank account. Moving forward in time the people with access from that moment on and until the theft was Chess, Vlako and Faithzy (the new officer). While Vlako was only a raider in the guild as he didnt want any responsibility he was still one of the guilds three founders, so he was allowed to keep his access as he still owned the account and there were no signs at that point that he would steal anything or act against the ppl of the guild whom he claims to like.

Vlako said in his forum post that he did it because he feared Chess would steal it so he stole it first, "I know chess is a snake and would have took the bank". To respond to that of course i was not going to steal the bank, at the time of this happening i was still GM of the guild and why would i steal from my own guild? I am now no longer a leader in dv and i would still see the bank returned to the guild without me having any form of access to it, which Vlako should be okay with assuming he told the truth when he said that he only did this to prevent me from stealing it. So i suggest the account be given to Kurayami aka the new GM of dv. Vlako did also give reasons for why I am a snake that would steal the guild bank, as you can see in his original post he brings up two scenarios the bwl ring and the hunger cold.

So lets look at them, first the easy one, the BWL ring, what happened here? Letalaure won the ring because he won the roll, really it was that easy, the reason ppl though it looked shady was because there were pass requests on the ring in hopes that an other player would get it, due to slow responses from people and time getting delayed it looked as if we were plotting, but when we received the answer that he did not wish to pass the we gave it to the highest roller and moved on, aka Letalaure.

Second one, The Hungering Cold. Just like many guilds dv uses dkp to distribute loot, but dv do have a few special rules to govern how dkp works when it comes to some items and situations, this is all in the name of fairness and if it was truly just a front for manipulating loot to myself then why did i give away the last item i need from bis three times? for the record i still dont have it.  We use a item queue based on dkp at a certain point to decide in which order players will get KT loot, this is a system that was approved by a overwhelming majority in dv as it was a fair way to distribute loot without forcing ppl to sit on their dkp for months on end just because KT didnt drop their item. This is the Rules wording from the dv website http://prntscr.com/m5gnyx

Finally, Who Built the bank? Who Contributed? Who truly owns it? While i will not deny that Vlako donated to the bank, because he did, a fair bit. He was far from the only one, We had several people who donated on a weekly bases and allowed that bank to become what it is. Such as Vanniss, Noroell, Figone, Piskotik, Hypnotizer, Pah, Chess, and many more, I'm sure i am forgetting people, and those i mentioned are only the major ones i can remember, there were also people who donated less frequently and mostly just when they had mats to spare, so the banks creation and maintenance was a combined effort of the guilds members and it is to those players the bank should truly belong, and since those players still mostly play in dv that is where the bank should return, to those who built it and truly deserve it.

And while it does say VG has no support for shared account there may be exceptions for this as said in the VG rules.

"Please consider that each issue is situational, these rules are basic guidelines of how things will be dealt with, at times exceptions or uncovered incidents will arise that will need to be taken care of, possibly differently from what is written here. As this small list of rules does not cover every possible or even the majority of things that a gm needs to deal with, things like that will be dealt with in a basic online gaming etiquette or accordingly in which case the issue will be passed through the whole staff and/or admins before taking action."


I hope I havent missed anything and if so please feel free to point it out or if anything needs to be cleared up. I would like to encourage all dv members current and former to comment on what i just said and tell your side of the story.

Proof Pilze was going to steal the Bank: http://prntscr.com/m5geze

Vlakos original post where he also admits to stealing the bank: http://prntscr.com/m5gfd2


Ps. Vlako, if you agree to Kurayami as the only one with access then let the GMs know, I think it would put an end to this situation if the bank could be returned to dv and since it would then be out of my grasp which is what you wanted.

I am very disappointed to see such a long report without some proper proves beside mostly defamation statements as for example: we are missing discord tag of the user from "Pilze screenshot". It is important because on discord you can change names at any times to forge report. You should add a full screenshot (not a cropped one) with discord tag visible like Pilze#1234.

Furthermore, all screenshots are cropped. Cheater reports always stated to have full screenshots, not just chats.

This seems more like a guild issue than a server issue. Its part of the trust you put in someone to have the guildbank. A shared account is stated in the rules as the following:
"We have zero support on shared accounts."

If you're sharing the guildbank account with others then VG isn't accountable to help you at all regardless of the situation.
Also seems like from vlako's post that the account was banned which is either an abuse of power or it was mistaken for breaking the rules in some way. (or he broke some other rule that he didn't mention)

Seems like VG should stay out of this one and revert any actions they did since this is shit that happened back in retail and is part of the blizzard experience tbh. (That and ninja'ing during free-for-all loot guilds)
I fully agree with you Brawnzy.

Moreover, a few days ago I was speaking with Vlako who is the real owner of that account (provided registration e-mail proved it) and he told me he has intentions to give the bank to Woodknight still as he wanted to secure it at a harsh time of (almost) guild disband phase.
2  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Didnt get 100Gold for voting on: December 22, 2018, 11:30:13 pm
Check your other characters, on that account, perhaps you send the gold there.

In the worse case, here is the sentence from Voting rules:
#6 If you why so ever lose your voting reward, may it be our or your fault, we cannot and will not restore it.
3  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Atiesh, the Befouled Greatstaff on: November 29, 2018, 11:47:40 pm
The issue has been solved.
4  Support / General Support / Re: Instant 60 on: November 28, 2018, 08:13:27 pm
Hello there,

As far as I can see, both chars are already at level 60. The thing with donation is that you have to be online (with each character) for several minutes in order to let the system automatically adjust the reward. Basically, that's pretty much it.

Regards
5  Support / General Support / Re: Spent Donation Coins on wrong Set on: November 28, 2018, 08:07:33 pm
Please check your PM.
6  Support / General Support / Re: Account Password on: November 28, 2018, 08:05:21 pm
Please check your PM.
7  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Auction House on: November 28, 2018, 07:56:47 pm
Q: I sold an item on the Auction House and I still haven't received the gold. Is is bugged ?
A: No, it's not bugged. After every successful auction it takes up to 1 hour for the payment to arrive via mail.

Perhaps you should look at FAQ next time or search forum to find the answer to your question.

Closed.
8  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Account suspended on: November 26, 2018, 10:33:51 am
Anyway, the account, which you told us, has never been banned. You probably just type wrong password. Write PM to me with more details.

Closed.
9  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Gold disappeared on: November 26, 2018, 10:32:16 am
Hello there,

Unfortunately, we do not restore lost virtual goods. However, if you have found a bug, and you know how to reproduce it, then we would love if you could let our programming team know about it on the forums under "Bugs & Glitches" section with appropriate proves. Mind bug report template.

Regards
10  Support / Cheaters & Bans / Re: Account banned on: November 24, 2018, 10:53:46 am
Nice story but rejected. We have ZERO tolerance for hackers.
11  Support / Feedback / Re: WTB Training Dummies, I know, crazy right? on: November 19, 2018, 08:11:03 pm
https://classicdb.ch/?quest=3627

Check the link for names of creatures who drop amulets as each of these 3 mobs cannot be killed unless you have a quest weapon.

You should be able to just approach any of them, without being on quest, and start an "infinite" fight.
12  Support / Ticket Support System / Re: Account suspended on: November 19, 2018, 12:55:49 pm
how did you log in and saw the message when you don't remember your password? :-)
Well... Haha  Cheesy
13  Support / General Support / Re: No donation/vote option for a character appearance change? on: November 19, 2018, 12:51:35 pm
Hello there,

Unfortunately, as many times mentioned in the near past, such option won't be available via donation/voting simply because we cannot make it manually and creating a script, to do it automatically, is not on the priority list right now.

Thanks for suggestion
14  Support / Cheaters & Bans / Re: Mingu blinks through impassable terrain in WSG on: November 04, 2018, 08:38:14 am
To clarify the situation. Blink to unreachable location is not abuse by itself because a player could go there by mistake.
Abuse is when a player was standing in such location for too long time while it was possible to easily go back to reachable spot (for all players) again.

This report is not proving what has been said but other GMs were observing the situation to justify a punishment.


P.S. Stick to the cheater report template.
15  Support / General Support / Re: Game freezing on logout. on: October 17, 2018, 10:03:18 pm
Glad to know such additional info. Thanks!
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