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1  Community / General Chat / Re: New Player, Questions about requirements and stuff on: October 15, 2014, 02:56:03 am
It's not about bandwidth it's more about latency, you can play the game over dial up without major issues until you get into 20 mans. With satellite internet there is a long delay from the signal going into space and back, but you can always  try. I use to install wild blue (satellite internet), some people said they could play online games over it, but it depends.
2  Community / General Chat / Re: I just made an account on: October 12, 2014, 03:13:57 am
You sure you made a in game account and not just a forum account, they are 2 different things
3  Community / General Chat / Re: New PvP ideas on: April 08, 2014, 07:26:40 pm
Such battles were common thing on retail before the battlegrounds were released,after they were tho people stopped doin this kind of "world pvp". I dont think thats a good idea for VG and almost no one will follow this due to many reasons like- qq of pvp in general,qq of premades,qq of gear,qq of number, qq of qq coz qq dem qq.

Such battles stopped when blizzard removed world defense, no way to draw people to places when they don't know they are under attack, world defense was the backbone of world pvp, it's what made tarren mill and south shore fight's possible, without it people don't show. You can currently get into the world defense channel with /join worlddefense but it only shows major cities under attack which really doesn't help open world pvp.

4  Community / General Chat / Re: Corps camping of low lvl players - ruins the server on: February 21, 2014, 06:11:59 am

I think Graffix is doing an amazing job as a GM because he really cares about the players and wants them to have a good experience on VG. But here, his gut feeling to "do the right thing" has actually caused some trouble because Blizzard's in-game PvP mechanics are specifically designed to set the limits on what is allowed. All pvp disputes are resolved without GM intervention because Blizzard knew that undertaking to decide where to draw the line between legitimate pvp and griefing presents a slippery slope and an ever-increasing workload for GMs.  The GM's have enough tickets already!

Let me be honest with you for a moment, I put in my app to be a gm to help improve the server and see what I could do to change some of the issues others gm's wouldn't touch. This topic for one was one of those issues that needed dealt with and talked about. As was previously stated, it is no guarantee that there will be retribution for such actions, what was said is there could be. Each time one of these incidents occurs it is situational, which means that if a GM is around or involved in it, it is up to them to make decisions on what to do using reasonable  judgement. Far too long every time one of these topics come up, the argument ends up with it being players can do such actions as much as they want and no punishment will ever arise. That is not true.

Some of these issues that used to end like that everytime they are talked about was:

Camping and Griefing
(this is being dealt with here)

Being kicked from a group and pulling mobs
(Had a issue where a player was reported for doing it in AQ20, he was kicked from the group and wiped the entire group. I said something to him, but then he went offline. 2 days later he was in ZG, same situation, kicked from the group, wiped the group and died.  He the got into a group with someone else, turned it into a raid and ran back into the instance since they did not fill the 20th spot yet and did it again. He then stood over their corpses taunting them and saying that he was not going to stop.  When I froze him, was going to give him a day, but instead he decided to taunt me too by saying that there was absolutely nothing I could do, so I gave him a few.)

Taking mats that are traded for enchants or crafted items
(Had a issue the other day where someone stole the mats from another player that was looking to get hide of the wild made, I went to have a little talk about the situation with the thief. You know what he told me? "I did it because it happened to me a few times and the GM's never did anything, so I did it to someone else." He then logged off, I talked to him the next time that he logged on, I asked him to give back the mats, he told me that he had already made the hide of the wild for the other player and gave it too him, then asked me to ban him. I of course didn't)

Abusing guards terrain in neutral towns
(Was able to get this fixed before I became GM by finding a blizzard rep post on Rooftop Camping)

When I got the gm position, I was on the look out for situations of these actions that could be punished, I do not intend to find and or be able to deal with all or even most of these situations, most of the time all that will be done is a warning. But I wanted to end the "there is nothing that GM's can or will be able to do, no matter how far these people take it"
5  Community / General Chat / Re: Corps camping of low lvl players - ruins the server on: February 19, 2014, 10:32:49 pm
WTF is this shit lol.
So NOT retail like.
My life was pvp on retail. And I could kill and camp low lvls for days if i wanted.
Watta load of crap.
Fking booo at u gms.

They also gave out those warnings on retail for camping. So calm down.

Absolutely never.

These are quotes from a blizzard rep concerning camping on a pvp server. They do say true they do not always get involved but they do from time to time.


I will say this, though: Being on a PvP realm is not a "Get Out of Jail Free" card. Should one consistently and maliciously harass another player—or zone—in-game for an extended period of time, we may indeed interfere. Such a move by our department is very rare, though, and absolutely dependent on context.

The ability to interfere should behavior be egregious enough—yes, even on a PvP realm—has always been in effect. The act is just so rare that it's usually not a staple of conversation.

Not at all. There is a difference between 2 hours, 2 days, and 2 weeks. There's a difference between hindering one player's game play through "corpse camping"—as is usual on a PvP realm—and completely annihilating progression within a lower-level zone for an extended period of time.

The key, as I mentioned, is context. We have no desire to disrupt the flow of normal PvP unless a player's actions are contributing so negatively that the spirit of the game is in jeopardy.

Also blizzard TOU states


But from what I remember from the original game was that blizzard was still playing with the rules a bit, they did do things like suspend for camping on pvp servers, they also suspended for things like exploring, climbing buildings, stealing from players, and others. True they did not get involved a lot, but they did get involved. It was just necessary at certain times to maintain the game environment.  It was a way of saying if you wanted to play controversially you do it at your own risk.
6  Community / General Chat / Re: Corps camping of low lvl players - ruins the server on: February 19, 2014, 09:18:24 pm
WTF is this shit lol.
So NOT retail like.
My life was pvp on retail. And I could kill and camp low lvls for days if i wanted.
Watta load of crap.
Fking booo at u gms.

Killing players is fine and yes you could get in trouble for camping on pvp servers, there is not always a gm around so you can still get away with it but if proof comes out or there is a gm around you can get in trouble, same as retail, you can pvp but you may not make people quit playing. If you think that blizzard allowed people to stop others from playing the game you are wrong, killing players until they have no option but to stop playing is not allowed and no way did blizzard allow you to do that to a paying customer.
7  Community / General Chat / Re: Corps camping of low lvl players - ruins the server on: February 19, 2014, 08:50:24 pm
Gave him a warning

Killing players numerous times while they are helpless to defend themselves is considered camping, you may kill a player once or twice but then you need to move on or let them move on.  Continuously killing a player helpless to defend themselves can lead to a suspension.
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