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Title: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dimsal on April 03, 2012, 06:05:59 pm
1. Rogue Daggers PvP spec by Dimsai
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8325320105c13513023q5005002j
This is the one I currently use. I'm not saying it's the best one out there, but this is the one I use.
Alternatively remove 2 points from dodge and put it on imp sinister strike in the combat tree if you find yourself using sinister strike (which you shouldn't be, if you're a dagger rogue).

If you find yourself getting caught in stealth a lot you should consider speccing for master of deception in the sublety tree as well. Where you would get the points for that - is up to you.


2. Rogue Hemo PvP spec by Les the Cookie Pirate
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_83053c105031d3s50025300033212100
"Highly recommend it for rogues that wanna PvP but lack the gear to put the real hurt on.
Instead of gear u rely heavily on CDs. Which u have x2 with this spec."

3. Rogue Hemo PvP spec by Ktwentya
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_83053c105g3t5105310033012151


4. Rogue Swords PvE spec by Jordai
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8c5323105h250052010050150231
"In Assassination you could switch 3 points from ruthlessness into Imp Eviscerate (Would be fine with T2.5 set-bonus)"


5. Rogue Swords PvP spec by Brooke
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8305320105011d3s5c25300033212100
"This is my spec. I moved two points from imp expose to murder for more dmg. I don't normal use expose armor, but if it's warrior or druid I use it"


6. Rogue Combat-mace PvE spec by Jordai
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5323105h250052010055100231r
"Awesome with the offhand out of AQ40 trash"


7. Rogue Combat Dagger PvE spec by Gelati
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8c5203005i53052d55010022105p
- Slobobb's modification (http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11226005_4_8c5302104i5305002255010020105p)


Advising all you other rogues to dump your specs in here as well, especially PvE rogues - I'll try to make a list of various PvE and PvP specs with different weapon types.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Les the Cookie Pirate on April 03, 2012, 07:13:19 pm
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_83053c105031d3s50025300033212100
Hemo, pretty standard. PvP ofc.
 
Highly recommend it for rogues that wanna PvP but lack the gear to put the real hurt on.
Instead of gear u rely heavily on CDs. Which u have x2 with this spec.




Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Jordai on April 04, 2012, 09:19:07 am
PVE Sword:
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5323105h250052010050150231r (http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5323105h250052010050150231r)
In Assassination you could switch 3 points from ruthlessness into Imp Eviscerate (Would be fine with T2.5 set-bonus)


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Obscene on April 04, 2012, 11:00:34 am
use pretty much same as u Dimsai, used to be 21-8-22 http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8325320105c13513023q5005002j
for CB/preparation combo but tbh I prefer vigor to preparation.. 21-8-22 is better vs healers because of 2x CDs though.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dimsal on April 14, 2012, 05:09:37 pm
Anyone got anything to contribute towards a dagger PvE spec, or a mace spec?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Jordai on April 18, 2012, 07:50:55 am
Mace Combat-PVE: http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5323105h250052010055100231r

awesome with the offhand out of AQ40 trash


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Ekatarina on May 07, 2012, 08:48:19 pm
In 3. Rogue Swords PvE spec by Chemo, in the talent tree link you put r at the end of the link so it fucks up the link :P
just sayin :>


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dimsal on May 08, 2012, 03:55:51 am
Doesn't fuck up the link for me 0.o

But fixed anyway.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: cHuuu on May 08, 2012, 09:49:28 am
if you have 5/5 t2.5 bonus - pve swords : http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8305303104h25c52010050150231r

instead of swords spec you can skill mace / fists aswell.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Maartenn on May 08, 2012, 11:27:47 am
No one has full T2.5 and no one will any time soon get that.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: J o r d a i on May 08, 2012, 02:22:17 pm
No one has full T2.5 and no one will any time soon get that.
Its only "if" u got it. If not u should skill ruthlessness


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dimsal on September 02, 2012, 04:34:06 pm
Bring
Up
My
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Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Gelati on September 02, 2012, 04:46:18 pm
What do you think about this Combat-Dagger PvE spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5203005i53052d55010022105p



Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Slobobb on September 02, 2012, 05:07:01 pm
What do you think about this Combat-Dagger PvE spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5203005i53052d55010022105p



Well, its okey, but not that good.

1. 2/3 - Aggression. as a dagger rogue u use ur backstab for dmg and generate Combo Points, and the combo points is only used for Slice and Dice to get faster white dmg and thats it. but when u pop your adrenaline rush u will generate more combo point than u can spend on slice and dice (its just tarded to overlap the slice and dice with a new 1 if its not on 0-1 sec left of the other) and thats when u use ur evi/rupture. So imo, u only use evi/rupture every 5 min or so.

2. 5/5 - lethality. i have romoved 1 point from that and put that point in Relentless strikes, and that is bec Slice and dice cost 25 energy, and sometimes (quite often, bec u dont want to w8 to get 5/5 Combo points every time to use ur slice and dice bec that will make u do lesser dps) when u use Slice and dice u recover 25 energy = no energy spent = using backstabs more often = more dmg.
and i do belive that 25 energy regain time to times is more effective than 6% more criticalstrike dmg from 1 Backstab.

3.  Here is my Built, the only difference is to things above, and that i puted the points from ur Aggression in Improved Sprint. and the 2 points from Endurence to Improved kick. please give me some feedback!!

http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11226005_


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Gelati on September 02, 2012, 05:11:02 pm
What do you think about this Combat-Dagger PvE spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5203005i53052d55010022105p



Well, its okey, but not that good.

1. 2/3 - Aggression. as a dagger rogue u use ur backstab for dmg and generate Combo Points, and the combo points is only used for Slice and Dice to get faster white dmg and thats it. but when u pop your adrenaline rush u will generate more combo point than u can spend on slice and dice (its just tarded to overlap the slice and dice with a new 1 if its not on 0-1 sec left of the other) and thats when u use ur evi/rupture. So imo, u only use evi/rupture every 5 min or so.

2. 5/5 - lethality. i have romoved 1 point from that and put that point in Relentless strikes, and that is bec Slice and dice cost 25 energy, and sometimes (quite often, bec u dont want to w8 to get 5/5 Combo points every time to use ur slice and dice bec that will make u do lesser dps) when u use Slice and dice u recover 25 energy = no energy spent = using backstabs more often = more dmg.
and i do belive that 25 energy regain time to times is more effective than 6% more criticalstrike dmg from 1 Backstab.

3.  Here is my Built, the only difference is to things above, and that i puted the points from ur Aggression in Improved Sprint. and the 2 points from Endurence to Improved kick. please give me some feedback!!

http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11226005_

Yes, makes sense :) ty.

Btw your link isn't working.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Slobobb on September 02, 2012, 06:50:27 pm
Np :)
oh, took the wrong link from the site! :)

http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_8c5302104i5305002255010020105p


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Tkiller on September 03, 2012, 12:10:18 am
my favorite spec: http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s550053l
has great burst and you will never be in need for combo points
my hemo build:http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c105g3s50025310203012151
has great burst as well, and little more survive-ability due to prep. use premed whenever its up and you should be able to get an insta evis


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Slobobb on September 03, 2012, 11:47:49 am
my favorite spec: http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s550053l
has great burst and you will never be in need for combo points
my hemo build:http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c105g3s50025310203012151
has great burst as well, and little more survive-ability due to prep. use premed whenever its up and you should be able to get an insta evis

Your specc - http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s550053l
1. why do u got Opportunity 5/5?
2. if its for Garrote for good dmg in PVE why have u improved ur Gouge and improved Kidney Shot? no use for gouge in pve, and most of the Mobs is immune against Kidney shot. Makes no sence


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Tkiller on September 12, 2012, 10:36:06 pm
my favorite spec: http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s550053l
has great burst and you will never be in need for combo points
my hemo build:http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c105g3s50025310203012151
has great burst as well, and little more survive-ability due to prep. use premed whenever its up and you should be able to get an insta evis

Your specc - http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s550053l
1. why do u got Opportunity 5/5?
2. if its for Garrote for good dmg in PVE why have u improved ur Gouge and improved Kidney Shot? no use for gouge in pve, and most of the Mobs is immune against Kidney shot. Makes no sence
i really dont know why those points ore in opportunity meant for it to be like this: http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c1050413503s500253003i the 3 points in setup can be moved around
a spec i made for survivability, should always have CDs to use, and will be able to get out of dem roots http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83053c105g305002002k500253d23010100


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Jordai on October 30, 2012, 12:53:15 pm
No one has full T2.5 and no one will any time soon get that.


LIE!!!!!


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Slobobb on October 30, 2012, 01:06:18 pm
No one has full T2.5 and no one will any time soon get that.


LIE!!!!!

do u got full 2.5 now Jordai? :o


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Gelati on October 30, 2012, 03:15:47 pm
Ye he got full t2,5 now.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Slobobb on October 30, 2012, 04:52:17 pm
oh nice! Gz Jordai!


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Jordai on October 30, 2012, 06:36:41 pm
tyvm


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Jones on March 06, 2013, 10:09:44 pm
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_83053c105g3t5105310033012151

Deep sub PvP hemo spec that I use 99% of the time when I play rogue. Relies on non-standard openers with premeditation and heavy use of bleed abilities.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dimsal on March 07, 2013, 06:05:16 pm
Updated this shit with all your bad specs


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Notblondy on February 25, 2014, 02:25:55 am
Bump )

Hemo PvP http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_8p303c520220301f5022521d3112150
alt http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_8305020105041w5022521d3112150

Dagger PvP http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_8c5m30230320223001g5225313d112000
alt http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_83050201050513c30230320223001g5p

I would usually use the first one when i was rolling a rogue.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on March 20, 2014, 04:40:09 am
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4

Is my current PvE Dagger Spec. I'm usually number 4-3 On the DPS meter when We do ZG/ AQ20, when i was able to do MC i was fighting between 10-9 On the list. That's caused everyone who was on the DPS meter was geared out too! So i highly  Suggest using this! And in all honesty, Using Sinster Strike is a nice CP Builder to use SnD. Since the dagger is meant to pick up the lack of White Dmg


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: viile on March 20, 2014, 06:44:40 am
The talent spec you linked was blank, so i took the liberty of filling it in correctly for you:

http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c530310501f233052d55010020005p

Welcome to top dps

you can move the poison talent somewhere else if you're horde, or if your guild sucks and you have a lot of downtime between pulls you can get adrenaline rush instead of maxing lethality and ruthlessness.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NinjaAssassin on March 20, 2014, 06:59:14 am
http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11215875_4_8c5203104h23305002255010020105p

This is the dagger pve spec I used to rock. Did GREAT Dps. :) Try it out if you're interested Arisias.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Akum on March 20, 2014, 07:00:41 am
Quite good spec Viile but i wont suggest it for starter gear rogue. What more i think that this build should be used only after u have Death`s sting,with removing 1 more point from weapon expertise. What more poison talents are not working so you have to go for alternatives.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on March 22, 2014, 09:14:31 pm
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4

Is what i use for PvE. SOORY VIILE. Gawd.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on March 22, 2014, 09:16:13 pm
It's not showing up for some reason...

Well anyways the spec would be

20/31/0

And yeah.



Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Ergamemnon on March 22, 2014, 09:16:48 pm
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4

Is what i use for PvE. SOORY VIILE. Gawd.

your link is broken, try something here http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on March 22, 2014, 09:21:49 pm
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhecoxZMeV0zEz0co

There. Hopefully it works! But now that i see Viile's and Ninja's Spec's, they make mine look like crap! lol. But what i REALLY Want to know, is ninja's PvP Spec ;) lol.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 14, 2014, 02:37:44 am
So
What do you guys think of this spec? http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fheMoxZhfZEMxc0MM


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 14, 2014, 02:38:31 am
For dagger's ofc


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pucchini on April 15, 2014, 07:32:32 am
PvP or PvE?

I think this is for pure burst damage..
It's lacking real core talents like coldblood or premediation. Why did you choose to skill imp ambush and dirty deeds? I dont think its wise to skill both openers.
Additionally you will need decent +hit gear because you didnt skill Precision in combat tree.

2/3 SnD? Worthless in PvP, 3/3 necessary in PvE. SnD is the most dps-gaining skill.
Again if you skilled SnD for PvE you are missing a lot of talents in the combat tree for sustained dps.

To summarize, I think this is a hybrid build which will not work exceptionally well in both pvp and pve.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 20, 2014, 09:48:24 pm
PvP or PvE?

I think this is for pure burst damage..
It's lacking real core talents like coldblood or premediation. Why did you choose to skill imp ambush and dirty deeds? I dont think its wise to skill both openers.
Additionally you will need decent +hit gear because you didnt skill Precision in combat tree.

2/3 SnD? Worthless in PvP, 3/3 necessary in PvE. SnD is the most dps-gaining skill.
Again if you skilled SnD for PvE you are missing a lot of talents in the combat tree for sustained dps.

To summarize, I think this is a hybrid build which will not work exceptionally well in both pvp and pve.

Yeah. This is when i wanted to spec both. Found out very difficult tbh. Im no sword rogue but this is my opinion in Sword PvE
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhgcoxZMLVbbVzxfo

But For Dagger Combat i use http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhgcoxZMLVbbVzxfo or the spec ninja provided for me. very nice. But i wanna do something with that 3/5 leathality.



Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pucchini on April 21, 2014, 01:59:02 pm
You pasted the same spec twice :-)

For the provided spec i suggest that you take the points off imp. eviscerate into ruthlessness and into murder if the dungen is ZG/BWL. (Are the deathknights in Naxx humanoid or undead btw?)

Imp. and vile Poisons is still bugged right?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Ergamemnon on April 21, 2014, 02:40:58 pm
(Are the deathknights in Naxx humanoid or undead btw?)


The riders etc are undead, the acolytes humanoids afaik.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pucchini on April 22, 2014, 12:01:59 am
OK, so choose whether you choose murder or not.

Erga, did anyone investigate imp poisons so far? That talent used to be quite useful too.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 22, 2014, 12:16:51 am
You pasted the same spec twice :-)

For the provided spec i suggest that you take the points off imp. eviscerate into ruthlessness and into murder if the dungen is ZG/BWL. (Are the deathknights in Naxx humanoid or undead btw?)
Imp. and vile Poisons is still bugged right?

The full t2.5 is nice with evis, to bump even more dps i say you should leave it as is. And if you're gunna do anything with Murder i saw it should be Mace / Dagger. Though i'd prefer it to say with evis for hard hitting action.
And YES! I don't belive vile poisions is bugged, but from what i head it's a forsure for imp. poisons. also been hearing some stuff about the t2 3 set for rogues isn't working as well. We should really make a post and bump it so people can fix that bug.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: daeghan on April 22, 2014, 02:47:44 am
There is a nice spec out there to be tried once i attain death's sting. BUT.. until then. I will keep it to myself.Bwahaha. I'm sure it can be deduced by a few of the worthy rogues.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pucchini on April 22, 2014, 06:36:30 am
Why sbould anyone use imp evis only with maces and daggers?

Still white damage does most of a rogues damage so i rather would increase it with murder than with imp evis :-P


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 22, 2014, 02:24:44 pm
No. What i'm ttrying to say is that the t2.5 5 set bonues does a 15% Increased damage when useing evisarate. So not just daggers and maces, but that's for more swords. The Spec i showed was of PvE Swords.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pucchini on April 25, 2014, 10:55:56 am
Many of the specs mentioned in the first post are not accessible anymore. Can we get them up at db.vanillagaming.org again?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on April 28, 2014, 01:57:10 am
Who know's tbh.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Shag on April 28, 2014, 10:16:16 am
Many of the specs mentioned in the first post are not accessible anymore. Can we get them up at db.vanillagaming.org again?
Using Google Chrome? Try opening a tab in Internet Explorer and the links provided do still work.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Arisias on May 02, 2014, 01:15:57 am
^ There ya go.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NotArisias on September 28, 2014, 09:40:59 pm
Slobobbs PvE Dagger Spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11226005_4_8c5302104i5305002255010020105p

Viiles PvE Dagger Spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8c530310501f233052d55010020005p

Both seem like they would do incredible damage! Does anyone else have anything to comment on the 2 specs above?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dvsblade on September 28, 2014, 09:50:34 pm

Viiles PvE Dagger Spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8c530310501f233052d55010020005p

Both seem like they would do incredible damage! Does anyone else have anything to comment on the 2 specs above?

no Adrenaline Rush?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: imajeep on September 28, 2014, 10:50:58 pm
Slobobbs PvE Dagger Spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11226005_4_8c5302104i5305002255010020105p

Viiles PvE Dagger Spec:
http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_4_8c530310501f233052d55010020005p

Both seem like they would do incredible damage! Does anyone else have anything to comment on the 2 specs above?
I would without doubt not use Slobobbs spec, the fact that it doesn't have 3/3 Slice n' Dice basically makes it useless. My personal favorite is this: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZMIV0bEz0roV


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Kame on September 30, 2014, 12:52:28 pm
this is my spec Combat dagger pve (http://www.wowprovider.com/?talent=11226005_4_8c5203104g320305002255010020105p)

imp kick is OP in pve situations, totems, skeram, eyes, giant eye, ony, warlocks in bwl.....
imp gouge is for solo pve and because i dont want to respec pvp.
Imp sinister is for spaming ss on mobs that need to be aoed
dodge is useles in raiding situations, atleast those 5%.
aggresion sucks imo
the only choice is between endurance and imp sprint, whatever works for u


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NotArisias on September 30, 2014, 04:38:25 pm
Interesting Spec, Kame.

But if i could comment, being a Dagger Rogue you are meant for absolutely nothing else but backstabs and SnD. You see the 3 points in gouge is useless when doing hardcore raiding, also kind of useless in instances since you'd waste 45 energy in order for 1 more second of survivability. So no point in gouge, also the imp. SS would be a waste, like i said in the beginning you are ONLY met for BS and SnD, if anything you would want extra dmg wrather than save 5 energy.

Conclusion:
 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZ0eV0bEz0roV would be my modification to your spec, but I'm sure there are a few rogues out there that can fix my modification to an even better one.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: imajeep on September 30, 2014, 07:15:16 pm
Interesting Spec, Kame.

But if i could comment, being a Dagger Rogue you are meant for absolutely nothing else but backstabs and SnD. You see the 3 points in gouge is useless when doing hardcore raiding, also kind of useless in instances since you'd waste 45 energy in order for 1 more second of survivability. So no point in gouge, also the imp. SS would be a waste, like i said in the beginning you are ONLY met for BS and SnD, if anything you would want extra dmg wrather than save 5 energy.

Conclusion:
 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZ0eV0bEz0roV would be my modification to your spec, but I'm sure there are a few rogues out there that can fix my modification to an even better one.
You can't avoid certain situations where you have to use ss instead of backstab


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NotArisias on September 30, 2014, 07:19:30 pm
But still, I'd rather have the extra damage of SS/Evis and waste 5 more energy rather than spending 2 talent points in imp. SS.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: imajeep on September 30, 2014, 07:43:48 pm
But still, I'd rather have the extra damage of SS/Evis and waste 5 more energy rather than spending 2 talent points in imp. SS.
Yea, you replace 2 points from imp dodge ofc


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NotArisias on October 01, 2014, 04:16:57 pm
~.^ Hmmm. Not a big fan of using Swords honestly in PvE, But i'm curious. What do you think of http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhgsoxZMLVbbVzxso ?


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Roqu on October 01, 2014, 05:24:16 pm
19/32/0, skip that imp evi and take the weapon expertise


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: viile on October 01, 2014, 06:15:22 pm
I use exactly what imajeep posted, except endurance is better then improved sprint. I havn't run that non AR spec in a long while after learning imp poisons don't work. and a few other ways to maximize AR... ;)  

The idea behind it was that if your guild has enough uptime on stuff and doesn't sit around after every pull.. the talents you are able to get in assasination would outperform AR, on farm content.

The reason you always get 2/2 sinister strike is that you actually use sinister strike quite a bit at high lvl play. Sometimes you can't get behind your enemy... somtimes you only have enough time and energy to sinister strike before an enemy dies. or you just want to spam more attacks like a fight like viscidius where you just need frost procs. And lets not forget thaddius where you may not be able to get behind him at all if you get bad luck.

The only real choice for daggers once you learn how to play is between imp kick 2/2 and 2/3 aggression. imp kick can be really handy on certain trash and 4% dmg on ss and evis isn't really that big a deal considering how often you use either of them.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: baddestbad on October 01, 2014, 08:14:18 pm
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fbecoxZG0qbbVzxfo sword
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZGcVbbEz0boV daggor

If you think these suck do not apply for DW thx... /topic



Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Renew on October 01, 2014, 09:22:07 pm
aris is the last rogue i would trust on specs...scammed gear from DP, still bad as fuck

(http://i.imgur.com/Uob0Bt3.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/2hshiir.png)


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Ergamemnon on October 01, 2014, 09:26:10 pm
aris is the last rogue i would trust specs...scammed gear from DP, still bad as fuck

(http://i.imgur.com/Uob0Bt3.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/2hshiir.png)


thats why he asked for help...



ot: i just noticed this topic got read (Read 27768 times) LOL - arisias cant be the only one


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: viile on October 01, 2014, 09:29:39 pm
Whats with the arisias hate? dude was just posting about specs and ex guildies come in and flame him. Obviously you didn't even read his posts, you just came here to flame. stay classy renew.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: NotArisias on October 02, 2014, 03:50:17 am
Cool specs, Thedeeps! May I ask how much DPS you put out?:)
Also, Viile! You make a good point, I guess I never thought of it like that. Good point.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pagos on October 02, 2014, 01:18:09 pm
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fbecoxZG0qbbVzxfo sword
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#f0gcoLZGcVbbEz0boV daggor

If you think these suck do not apply for DW thx... /topic

Pretty much the same if you want to join Unique. Beside Imp Evis in sword spec is first when new comers are geared up and Eviscerate beats the damage output of Rupture. We do allow some varieties according to playstyle though and we also got 1 supportive spec. Our dagger rogues need Imp Kick over Agression for the sake of the raid. Very useful as Kameja mentions for warlocks in BWL, Giant Eye at C'thun, but also totems from Monstrosity towards Patchwerk.

Out of curiousity in your sword spec why would you want 1 point in Deflection rather than 1 in Lightning Reflexes? Parry procs more than it should? I know it's just a talent to unlock next tier and it is just a small help when solo just like Imp Gouge. But beside if there's a bug I don't know of then dodge > parry since you can also dodge when attacked from behind.



Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Dhorn on October 02, 2014, 02:19:27 pm
Out of curiousity in your sword spec why would you want 1 point in Deflection rather than 1 in Lightning Reflexes? Parry procs more than it should? I know it's just a talent to unlock next tier and it is just a small help when solo just like Imp Gouge. But beside if there's a bug I don't know of then dodge > parry since you can also dodge when attacked from behind.
Miniscule chance for parry haste I am guessing.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: wopwop on October 02, 2014, 05:38:29 pm
since you can also dodge when attacked from behind.
(http://nojesguiden.se/sites/default/files/users/40849/9.gif)


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: baddestbad on October 02, 2014, 06:01:01 pm
janitor with only the finest gifs! good job again!
Your poison topic one still #1 spot in my hearth


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pagos on October 02, 2014, 07:44:48 pm
(http://nojesguiden.se/sites/default/files/users/40849/9.gif)

Heh, I guess I've mistaken this thread with a place where we could share ideas and thoughts. gg.


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Pwnmage on August 23, 2015, 03:41:35 pm
sf/bf - http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhefoxziZG0qbbVz
2/3 imp kidney for tentacles at cthun/crypt guards at anub etc

sf/hemo - http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#fhefoxziZZVre00h0o (gear dependant as fuck)
again 2/3 imp ks for same reason, can switch for RA/VP




Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: Akum on August 23, 2015, 04:06:44 pm
Dont flood with specs handful of ppl could use :D


Title: Re: Rogue Talent Specs
Post by: apolon123 on August 23, 2015, 04:40:20 pm
Since your Boss DPS will be lower than standard combat sword/dagger it's mandatory to take Remorseless Attacks to at least increase your overall one.